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02-12-2011, 03:31 PM
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Re: Pale horse in Egypt?
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Originally Posted by TJJJ
Bwahahaha
And if Baxter said it it must be true!
That poor guy has flipped flopped so many times he belongs on a beach!
Don't wanta burst your bubble Rose but Baxter is a fake!
If he really believed what he was peddling he, anlong with the other peddlers of false doctrine like LaHaye, would be giving this stuff out for free and not trying to profit off being a false prophet!
After all, the world is gonna end soon and what use is money?
But no, you buy their stuff and they buy a new car and put the money into their little piggy banks!
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I wouldn't speak that harshly of Bro. Baxter.
I don't agree with him but I think he really believes what he teaches.
I think part of his problem is that he looks at modern events or thoughts and tries to tie them in with Scripture from 1900 years ago (Revelation) and 2500 years ago (Daniel). Like red equals communism. A bear equals Russia. A lion equals England. Eagles wings equals United States. My pastor (F.E. Curts) years ago said there was nothing new in the Book of Revelation, that we would find it all in the OT and then it was carried over into the New Testament. So, it is my understanding that whatever a lion, or eagle's wings, or leopard etc. was in Daniel it would also mean that in the Book of Revelation.
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Last edited by Sam; 02-12-2011 at 03:32 PM.
Reason: correct typo
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02-12-2011, 07:55 PM
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Re: Pale horse in Egypt?
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Originally Posted by Sam
I wouldn't speak that harshly of Bro. Baxter.
I don't agree with him but I think he really believes what he teaches.
I think part of his problem is that he looks at modern events or thoughts and tries to tie them in with Scripture from 1900 years ago (Revelation) and 2500 years ago (Daniel). Like red equals communism. A bear equals Russia. A lion equals England. Eagles wings equals United States.
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VERY GOOD POINT.
Bro Baxter really waffled on the lion and eagle's wings picture in Daniel 7. He said the lion was England and the Eagle's wings were the USA. He said that when IT was made to stand on its feet like a man and a man's heart was given to IT, that was the eagle's wings becoming an independent nation from England, and symbolized by UNCLE SAM, a MAN standing up. But the vision was the LION was made to stand like a man after being able to fly with eagle's wings. THE LION was given a man's heart and could not fly any more in its former glory.
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My pastor (F.E. Curts) years ago said there was nothing new in the Book of Revelation, that we would find it all in the OT and then it was carried over into the New Testament. So, it is my understanding that whatever a lion, or eagle's wings, or leopard etc. was in Daniel it would also mean that in the Book of Revelation.
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EXACTLY!  We interpret REVELATION by the OLD TESTAMENT.
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02-14-2011, 05:46 AM
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Re: Pale horse in Egypt?
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
Why do they call it a "pale" horse when it's green?
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In the Youtube video it's a pale green. LOL.
Actually, in the Greek of the NT the word is "kloros" - as in chlorophyll and such. The Greek word translated as "pale" in the KJV means "greenish" - though probably a sickly sort of green.
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02-14-2011, 05:49 AM
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Re: Pale horse in Egypt?
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Originally Posted by Rose
Bro Baxter just taught on the four horsemen (Church Channel Mon Night).
Red horse = Communism; Black horse = Capitalism, White horse = Catholicism, and the Pale horse represents the rise of Islam.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TJJJ
Bwahahaha
And if Baxter said it it must be true!
That poor guy has flipped flopped so many times he belongs on a beach!
Don't wanta burst your bubble Rose but Baxter is a fake!
If he really believed what he was peddling he, anlong with the other peddlers of false doctrine like LaHaye, would be giving this stuff out for free and not trying to profit off being a false prophet!
After all, the world is gonna end soon and what use is money?
But no, you buy their stuff and they buy a new car and put the money into their little piggy banks!
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Now it would be sort of nice if the "black horse" really was "capitalism;" at least American capitalism. However it's been so long since we were "in the black" that capitalism is probably the "red horse."
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02-14-2011, 06:21 AM
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Re: Pale horse in Egypt?
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Originally Posted by mfblume
VERY GOOD POINT.
Bro Baxter really waffled on the lion and eagle's wings picture in Daniel 7. He said the lion was England and the Eagle's wings were the USA. He said that when IT was made to stand on its feet like a man and a man's heart was given to IT, that was the eagle's wings becoming an independent nation from England, and symbolized by UNCLE SAM, a MAN standing up. But the vision was the LION was made to stand like a man after being able to fly with eagle's wings. THE LION was given a man's heart and could not fly any more in its former glory.
EXACTLY!  We interpret REVELATION by the OLD TESTAMENT.
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Daniel and John the Revelator both spoke into a context that was already in existence and used symbolism that was relevant to their contemporary audiences and had already been relevant for centuries.
For example, here are a lion with the wings of an eagle and the head of a man and its companion, an ox with the wings of an eagle and the head of a man. These are copies in this picture but the originals were colossal statutes which dated to the Ninth Century B.C.
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02-14-2011, 07:22 AM
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Re: Pale horse in Egypt?
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Originally Posted by Sam
I wouldn't speak that harshly of Bro. Baxter.
I don't agree with him but I think he really believes what he teaches.
I think part of his problem is that he looks at modern events or thoughts and tries to tie them in with Scripture from 1900 years ago (Revelation) and 2500 years ago (Daniel). Like red equals communism. A bear equals Russia. A lion equals England. Eagles wings equals United States. My pastor (F.E. Curts) years ago said there was nothing new in the Book of Revelation, that we would find it all in the OT and then it was carried over into the New Testament. So, it is my understanding that whatever a lion, or eagle's wings, or leopard etc. was in Daniel it would also mean that in the Book of Revelation.
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Sam
I absolutely believe that Baxter believes what he teaches, as much as a Hindu believes what they teach or a mulim,... etc. That does not make it right and you know it.
I agree with your second paragraph as well!
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02-14-2011, 07:23 AM
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Re: Pale horse in Egypt?
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Originally Posted by pelathais
Daniel and John the Revelator both spoke into a context that was already in existence and used symbolism that was relevant to their contemporary audiences and had already been relevant for centuries.
For example, here are a lion with the wings of an eagle and the head of a man and its companion, an ox with the wings of an eagle and the head of a man. These are copies in this picture but the originals were colossal statutes which dated to the Ninth Century B.C.
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Awesome
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02-14-2011, 07:24 AM
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Re: Pale horse in Egypt?
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Originally Posted by pelathais
Now it would be sort of nice if the "black horse" really was "capitalism;" at least American capitalism. However it's been so long since we were "in the black" that capitalism is probably the "red horse." 
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02-14-2011, 07:32 AM
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Re: Pale horse in Egypt?
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Originally Posted by pelathais
In the Youtube video it's a pale green. LOL.
Actually, in the Greek of the NT the word is "kloros" - as in chlorophyll and such. The Greek word translated as "pale" in the KJV means "greenish" - though probably a sickly sort of green.
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Thanks, Pel. When I looked it up and it included "dun-colored", I knew when my father bought a "Dun" Horse, they weren't green. LOL!
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02-14-2011, 10:57 AM
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Re: Pale horse in Egypt?
bunch of nonsense. i took scissors to the prophetic books of the bible... dun need em. everything has been fulfilled! /tic/
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