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04-30-2011, 12:18 PM
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Re: Here Comes the Bride...............
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Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*
If you're going to consider it, please consider it fully.  Don't cherry pick one phrase out of the verse and build a doctrine on it.
Consider it in the context of the entire Bible.
Consider that he was using metaphors and was describing a woman who was full of finery, but had a golden cup full of abominations and fornications. That even though she looked splendid, she was wicked inside.
Consider the fact that God's bride was several times described in much the same way, minus the cup full of abominations.
Consider the fact that you can't say - "See, see!! She was wearing jewelry, that means it's a whore's adorning!!!" and completely ignore the fact that she was also wearing red and purple. |
Consider how the logic of some is suddenly reversed 180 degrees when it comes to defending the outward "holiness" of the pharisee. "Jesus was only criticizing their inward holiness!" is what is usually heard.
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04-30-2011, 01:40 PM
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Re: Here Comes the Bride...............
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Originally Posted by mfblume
What the standards folks are missing is that not only was the harlot decked with jewels, so was God's BRIDE, the New Jerusalem. Personally, I believe the harlot is old Jerusalem from Ezekiel 16 where GOD gave her jewelry, and the new bride is the New Jerusalem, the church. In both cases, GOD GAVE THE WOMEN JEWELRY.
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I pointed that out to him. I posted all the verses
What is interesting is everything that was pointed out to this person either went way way over his head or he was pretending to be obtuse
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04-30-2011, 02:27 PM
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Re: Here Comes the Bride...............
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Originally Posted by Narrow Is The Way
You don't see Gods anger? Read verse 17?
The children of Israel never could handle jewelry, what makes you think you can?
Why do you think Peter and Paul preached against it? Were they mean spirit radicals or men moved on by the Holy Ghost?
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You really think "jewelry" was thier problem? Really? Their problem was idolatry and EVERYTHING that came with it, especially sexual perversion and child sacrifice.
Do you think God would give them "jewelry" knowing they "couldn't handle it." How ridiculous.
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04-30-2011, 02:36 PM
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Re: Here Comes the Bride...............
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I think all preachers should preach against a woman styling her hair with a painted face.
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Right. Keep right on preaching that irrevelant stuff while the world around you goes to hell. Good grief.
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"The only man who has the right to say he is justified by grace alone is the man who has left all to follow Christ." ~Dietrich Bonheoffer, The Cost of Discipleship
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04-30-2011, 02:43 PM
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Re: Here Comes the Bride...............
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Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*
The verses in Ezekiel and Isaiah would read more like this if written in our day and age:
"I blessed you! I gave you fine homes and nice automobiles. I filled your bank account, you were able to go on nice trips and buy fancy clothing.
But you forgot me!! You began to trust in your riches instead of trusting me! So I am going to take these things away from you. You are going to become destitute! You are going to know that you can't trust in vain riches."
He's not saying that his blessings were a sin. It was their forgetting HIM that was a sin!
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I like it. Is the the AQPV? How soon can we expect a full translation?
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"Resolved: That all men should live to the glory of God. Resolved, secondly: That whether or not anyone else does, I will." ~Jonathan Edwards
"The only man who has the right to say he is justified by grace alone is the man who has left all to follow Christ." ~Dietrich Bonheoffer, The Cost of Discipleship
"Preachers who should be fishing for men are now too often fishing for compliments from men." ~Leonard Ravenhill
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04-30-2011, 02:58 PM
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Re: Here Comes the Bride...............
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Originally Posted by mfblume
What the standards folks are missing is that not only was the harlot decked with jewels, so was God's BRIDE, the New Jerusalem. Personally, I believe the harlot is old Jerusalem from Ezekiel 16 where GOD gave her jewelry, and the new bride is the New Jerusalem, the church. In both cases, GOD GAVE THE WOMEN JEWELRY. |
Malachi 3:16-18 KJV
16 Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name.
17 And they shall be mine, saith the LORD of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.
18 Then shall ye return, and discern between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth God and him that serveth him not.
I once hear a sermom, "The Church, God's Jewelry Box".
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04-30-2011, 03:32 PM
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Re: Here Comes the Bride...............
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Originally Posted by Falla39
Malachi 3:16-18 KJV
16 Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name.
17 And they shall be mine, saith the LORD of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.
18 Then shall ye return, and discern between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth God and him that serveth him not.
I once hear a sermom, "The Church, God's Jewelry Box".
Falla39
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Written and recorded by Hank Williams Sr.
The ceremony was over
A lad stood alone in tears
For he had just said goodbye
To the one he had loved thru the years.
He stood all alone with his head bowed down
As though his heart would break
Then the Parson came over and took his hand
And to him these words he did say.
CHORUS
When God comes and gathers his jewels
All his treasures of diamonds and gold
You'll meet her up there in heaven so fair
When God comes and gathers his jewels.
(Substitute I'll meet her.....on last chorus)
Each night when the pale moon is shining
You can see this lad all alone
With his eyes lifted to'ard heaven
He's repeating these words he was told.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiRKW-rqHzw
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04-30-2011, 03:37 PM
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Re: Here Comes the Bride...............
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Originally Posted by Jason Badejo
I like it. Is the the AQPV? How soon can we expect a full translation?
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 Working on it. Will be published when I have it all figured out.
Revelations is slowing me down, though. 
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04-30-2011, 03:59 PM
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Re: Here Comes the Bride...............
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Originally Posted by Sam
Written and recorded by Hank Williams Sr.
The ceremony was over
A lad stood alone in tears
For he had just said goodbye
To the one he had loved thru the years.
He stood all alone with his head bowed down
As though his heart would break
Then the Parson came over and took his hand
And to him these words he did say.
CHORUS
When God comes and gathers his jewels
All his treasures of diamonds and gold
You'll meet her up there in heaven so fair
When God comes and gathers his jewels.
(Substitute I'll meet her.....on last chorus)
Each night when the pale moon is shining
You can see this lad all alone
With his eyes lifted to'ard heaven
He's repeating these words he was told.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiRKW-rqHzw
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Bro. Sam,
I remember that song but had forgotten about it. I guess that kinda
dates us, doesn't it! LOL!
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04-30-2011, 04:20 PM
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Re: Here Comes the Bride...............
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Originally Posted by Falla39
Bro. Sam,
I remember that song but had forgotten about it. I guess that kinda
dates us, doesn't it! LOL!
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yeppers,
I would guess only the senior members here would remember stuff like that, the golden oldies or moldy oldies. At one time they were "contemporary."
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