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Old 07-31-2011, 03:32 PM
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Why not talk about Allah's followers?
Egotism? I quoted the Bible!
God does not reside in one place; hence omnipresence.
You used Allah as an example. If someone prays to to the Hindu god Sheba, I would not expect God to listen (although He would indeed hear) that prayer. However if a Hindu prayed to Jehovah God, you can be sure God would hear that prayer and very possibly answer, which is of course entirely based on His will. Does not God see every sparrow that falls in the woods?
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You used Allah as an example. If someone prays to to the Hindu god Sheba, I would not expect God to listen (although He would indeed hear) that prayer. However if a Hindu prayed to Jehovah God, you can be sure God would hear that prayer and very possibly answer, which is of course entirely based on His will. Does not God see every sparrow that falls in the woods?
They still fall. He usually just watches.
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You used Allah as an example. If someone prays to to the Hindu god Sheba, I would not expect God to listen (although He would indeed hear) that prayer. However if a Hindu prayed to Jehovah God, you can be sure God would hear that prayer and very possibly answer, which is of course entirely based on His will. Does not God see every sparrow that falls in the woods?
Just as it's usually not possible for Christians to distinguish between answered prayers and normal happenstance, but they say it was God anyway, maybe Hindus credit their gods when good things happen to them -- and especially when they prayed for it. Or do you think God would actively prevent any Hindu prayer from being randomly "answered"?
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Just as it's usually not possible for Christians to distinguish between answered prayers and normal happenstance, but they say it was God anyway, maybe Hindus credit their gods when good things happen to them -- and especially when they prayed for it. Or do you think God would actively prevent any Hindu prayer from being randomly "answered"?
your what i refer to as a wounded worshipper, you have been hurt in religion in some way.. and clearly i can see it in the way you post.

I have answered prayers, that was made in silent and watched them happen openly. No way they could even be accedited to coincidence or happenstance.

I am in no way trying to brag however i am pointing out, that God does answer.
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Just as it's usually not possible for Christians to distinguish between answered prayers and normal happenstance, but they say it was God anyway, maybe Hindus credit their gods when good things happen to them -- and especially when they prayed for it. Or do you think God would actively prevent any Hindu prayer from being randomly "answered"?
Many instances it is happenstance. As a new convert to Pentecostalism, I would sit there and nod in agreement to those giving thanks to God for what a doctor may have done. I learned differently recently, and now I cannot bring myself to Amen them. It's ridiculous.
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You used Allah as an example. If someone prays to to the Hindu god Sheba, I would not expect God to listen (although He would indeed hear) that prayer. However if a Hindu prayed to Jehovah God, you can be sure God would hear that prayer and very possibly answer, which is of course entirely based on His will. Does not God see every sparrow that falls in the woods?
i remember a muslim testimony who was going to be a imam or preacher of some sorts wanted to debunk christianity.

so he prayed to allah for enlightment. He stated from that point God began to answer Him. not Muslims allah, but God.

eventually when he changed over, his family poisioned him, he was kidnapped and held at gun point, robbed and beat up. He left his country. he servived all that.

But he just made a pray to know the truth, and God showed it to him
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Many instances it is happenstance. As a new convert to Pentecostalism, I would sit there and nod in agreement to those giving thanks to God for what a doctor may have done. I learned differently recently, and now I cannot bring myself to Amen them. It's ridiculous.
you must understand that God works through providence as well, not just miracles.

Joseph throne into a hole, and then being sold and enslaved. Finding himself in egypt as a servant, then a slave, then vice pharaoh, was all providence.


Luke was a doctor, i bet he still gave glory to god for it, even when it wasnt miraculous.

Isaiah 38
21 Now Isaiah had said, “Let them take a lump of figs, and apply it as a poultice on the boil, and he shall recover.”

hezekiah was going to die, but God used a lump of figs for treatment so that he would recover not instantly healed.
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your what i refer to as a wounded worshipper, you have been hurt in religion in some way.. and clearly i can see it in the way you post.

I have answered prayers, that was made in silent and watched them happen openly. No way they could even be accedited to coincidence or happenstance.

I am in no way trying to brag however i am pointing out, that God does answer.
Perhaps in your case, but haven't we all seen countless examples? Someone gets a raise at work, and gives God the glory (admitting they didn't deserve it ). A headache goes away, an accident is narrowly avoided, and accident happens with only minor injuries, etc.
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you must understand that God works through providence as well, not just miracles.

Joseph throne into a hole, and then being sold and enslaved. Finding himself in egypt as a servant, then a slave, then vice pharaoh, was all providence.


Luke was a doctor, i bet he still gave glory to god for it, even when it wasnt miraculous.

Isaiah 38
21 Now Isaiah had said, “Let them take a lump of figs, and apply it as a poultice on the boil, and he shall recover.”

hezekiah was going to die, but God used a lump of figs for treatment so that he would recover not instantly healed.
Which, again, makes Christianity pretty much the same (in that regard) as other religions that make those same claims.
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Which, again, makes Christianity pretty much the same (in that regard) as other religions that make those same claims.
again all others can claim things,just as anyone can claim to be a christian, that however doesnt make them a christian.

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