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Old 09-13-2011, 02:32 PM
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And I am in no way accusing anyone here doing that. Just pointing it out. My girlfriend and I were discussing this yesterday. I believe fully and completely that there is only one way to be saved and that is through the Acts 2:38 message and a lifestyle of holiness and separation from the world. But it MUST be preached in genuine love and humility!
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Old 09-13-2011, 03:40 PM
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These Scriptures are profound! I use this passage all of the time, especially when I need to get back to "Gound Zero".
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Old 09-13-2011, 03:41 PM
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I am not ashamed of this message of salvation. I am not ashamed to say that it is the only way to Heaven. I am not ashamed to be Apostolic. However, I am ashamed when others of like faith disregard the sincerity of others who do not have this experience. We will never reach the denominational world with this message as long as we look down on them. I often tell people "I'm not trying to discredit your experience with God or take away from what God has given you, but I am telling you has more to give you!" It was not an attitude of arrogance from Apostolics that pulled me out of the charismatic movement. It was a sincere desire to reach me and help me understand God's Word...but not to treat me as less of a Christian or dismiss the experience with God that I had already had.
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And I am in no way accusing anyone here doing that. Just pointing it out. My girlfriend and I were discussing this yesterday. I believe fully and completely that there is only one way to be saved and that is through the Acts 2:38 message and a lifestyle of holiness and separation from the world. But it MUST be preached in genuine love and humility!
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Old 09-13-2011, 03:47 PM
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Old 09-13-2011, 03:52 PM
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I am not ashamed of Apostolic Preachers or Apostolic Preaching!

"Be not thou therefore ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me his prisoner..."(II Timothy 1:8)


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Old 09-13-2011, 04:00 PM
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And I am in no way accusing anyone here doing that. Just pointing it out. My girlfriend and I were discussing this yesterday. I believe fully and completely that there is only one way to be saved and that is through the Acts 2:38 message and a lifestyle of holiness and separation from the world. But it MUST be preached in genuine love and humility!
I believe there is only one way to being saved and that is through Jesus Christ alone by faith in Him and what He did. Our "Lifestyles" don't save us, that's works. Our Lifestyles should be a by-produce of being saved plus we should want to be living witnesses for Jesus after what He did for us....it is our reasonable service

I don't think any Standard keeper is truely separate from the world according to their idea of separation unless they live in a cave or are Amish
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  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
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I am not ashamed of Apostolic Preachers or Apostolic Preaching!

"Be not thou therefore ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me his prisoner..."(II Timothy 1:8)


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Old 09-13-2011, 04:13 PM
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As one who has never received the HG, I feel like a Pharisee all of the time. I speak with my lips, but never follow through. Sis Alvear's thread this morning spoke directly to me. I feel like such a fraud. I'm baptised in Jesus' name, have repented over and over again, but still resist his transformation by the Spirit and Fire. I have frustrations. I have doubts. I have fears. I am ashamed. Currently, I'm simply on the path to "do the right thing", much in the same way as the disciples did when they first met Jesus and did their best to turn from their sins and follow him. But, there's Peter... he slipped up so many times... but then became the leader. That is so amazing. I am sick and tired of trying to "fix myself" via constantly doing "1) sin 2) repentance 3) goto step 1" or implementing a philosophy of "do the right thing". To me it is the same as: “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter by the door into the fold of the sheep, but climbs up some other way, he is a thief and a robber." These are the things I'm currently dealing with at the moment.
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Old 09-13-2011, 04:26 PM
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As one who has never received the HG, I feel like a Pharisee all of the time. I speak with my lips, but never follow through. Sis Alvear's thread this morning spoke directly to me. I feel like such a fraud. I'm baptised in Jesus' name, have repented over and over again, but still resist his transformation by the Spirit and Fire. I have frustrations. I have doubts. I have fears. I am ashamed. Currently, I'm simply on the path to "do the right thing", much in the same way as the disciples did when they first met Jesus and did their best to turn from their sins and follow him. But, there's Peter... he slipped up so many times... but then became the leader. That is so amazing. I am sick and tired of trying to "fix myself" via constantly doing "1) sin 2) repentance 3) goto step 1" or implementing a philosophy of "do the right thing". To me it is the same as: “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter by the door into the fold of the sheep, but climbs up some other way, he is a thief and a robber." These are the things I'm currently dealing with at the moment.
Don't EVER lose your honesty. Your words here are the cry of many. I don't have all the answers, but I do know that everyone one of us will need mercy when all is "Said and Done".

We try, we slip, we fail, and we fall, and that is why we need God's Pardon. You can have a hairdo a mile high and walk the straightest line a human has ever walked, but in the end, none of those things will save you.

The only reason a man is saved is because God sent His only begotten Son! It took me over 30 years to fully understand this. Men are nothing without the Savior!
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Old 09-13-2011, 04:27 PM
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I believe there is only one way to being saved and that is through Jesus Christ alone by faith in Him and what He did. Our "Lifestyles" don't save us, that's works. Our Lifestyles should be a by-produce of being saved plus we should want to be living witnesses for Jesus after what He did for us....it is our reasonable service

I don't think any Standard keeper is truely separate from the world according to their idea of separation unless they live in a cave or are Amish
I agree with you, but I couldn't help but think back.

I do remember though what is was like to actually live a standard. There was a period of about 12 years that I didn't see a movie, watch tv, listen to anything but a Christian radio Station. Would not go to a restaurant that had a bar in it. Would not go out to lunch with people from work because I was worried they might tell a bad joke, or cuss. Went to church every morning before work to pray before work. Was in church everytime the doors were open. Was in the Choir. Taught Sunday School. Bus Ministry, knocking doors, ect ect. I pretty much felt like I was separate from the world.

We had revival, souls were saved, in a few years we grew from 20 to 500+ people.

Something happened though, people started getting that attitude that others were disgusting sinners, and no one, even other Apostolics were as good as us. No one could be as holy as us. We got to the point where we had a bad spirit. I didn't like what we had become but I didn't know what to do.

Then one day the pastor said that he wasn't going to preach/enforce standards anymore. I backslid hard core. It's taken me a several years to repair my walk with God. I'm still confused, still shaken, still damaged.

Maybe it's like the man of God had a hedge around me, but I didn't have one myself.
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