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02-29-2012, 05:42 PM
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Re: Charismatic
Do you believe in baptism in Jesus name, for the remission of your sins, will lead to the gift of the Holy Ghost, evidenced by speaking in tongues?
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02-29-2012, 05:44 PM
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Rebel with a cause.
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Re: Charismatic
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So why do they? *on the edge of my seat*
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To stretch their legs, duh!!!!!! 
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02-29-2012, 06:03 PM
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Re: Charismatic
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Originally Posted by The Matt
Do you believe in baptism in Jesus name, for the remission of your sins, will lead to the gift of the Holy Ghost, evidenced by speaking in tongues?
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Hmm. Let's see.
I believe in:
1. The remission of sins comes by grace alone through faith alone because of Christ alone.
2. Baptism in the name of the Father, the Son, and The Holy Ghost as Jesus commanded. (I don't believe the Apostles actually differed from Jesus on this. I think the rendering in the book of Acts was descriptive rather than prescritive, meaning that they were merely baptizing people into the body of Christ and not in the name of Christ as opposed to the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost which is baptizing them in Jesus name because you are baptizing them in the name of the Son. Even if the apostles differed with Jesus on this, I would rather side with Jesus.)
3. The sanctifying work of the Spirit as a second work of grace.
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4. The baptism in the Holy Spirit as evidenced by speaking in other tongues.
In that order.
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02-29-2012, 06:08 PM
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Re: Charismatic
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Originally Posted by Jared Hanley
2. Baptism in the name of the Father, the Son, and The Holy Ghost as Jesus commanded. (I don't believe the Apostles actually differed from Jesus on this. I think the rendering in the book of Acts was descriptive rather than prescritive, meaning that they were merely baptizing people into the body of Christ and not in the name of Christ as opposed to the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost which is baptizing them in Jesus name because you are baptizing them in the name of the Son. Even if the apostles differed with Jesus on this, I would rather side with Jesus.)
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Let me ask you a simple question... who died on the cross?
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02-29-2012, 06:11 PM
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Re: Charismatic
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Let me ask you a simple question... who died on the cross?
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Jesus.
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02-29-2012, 06:15 PM
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Re: Charismatic
The thing is jared, what IS THE NAME of the father, what is the NAME of the son? What is the NAME of the Holy Ghost? You were baptized in the titles. Acts 2:38 gave what they did after Jesus died. baptized in the NAME of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. Jesus Christ. If you can point out any part of the bible where they were baptized by the titles, I'll lay down my beliefs.
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02-29-2012, 06:18 PM
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Re: Charismatic
When Jesus was prophesied about, He was to be known as Emmanuel, which translated literally means "God With Us".
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02-29-2012, 06:22 PM
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Re: Charismatic
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Originally Posted by Jared Hanley
Jesus.
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The answer you gave is so simple, and will give you the answer to the bigger question... in what name to baptize in. Who died on the cross.. Jesus of course! Since Jesus was the one who did the actual work, why would you not want to be baptized in the name of Jesus? Whereby all authority, and power and dominion over sin has been achieved? Who was the one who died, and did this for you? God the Father, or the Holy Ghost? NO. It was Jesus. Very simple.
Acts 19:5 When they heard this, they were baptized in name of the Lord Jesus.
How do you argue with the simplicity of this scripture?
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02-29-2012, 06:24 PM
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Re: Charismatic
Well he is all three but that is the name given among men whereby we must be saved!
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02-29-2012, 06:26 PM
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Re: Charismatic
1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
There are so many scriptures that say God, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost are one being. God is God, Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ was God manifested in the flesh. The Holy Ghost is God manifested in US.
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