Buffett Rule

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

deacon. u should really give credit to wiki instead of quoting whole paragraphs verbatim and having people think you can quote all the economic stats under reagan.

Oh, you got me. Wow, I can't get it past you. Hey everybody, I copied and pasted stats from wiki about Reaganomics.

There. The truth is out. I've been outed.

Do you really believe I was thinking people thought I had all these stats in my head and I'm like a walking, living, breathing book of statistics? Sheesh.

DM you should address the historical fact that Reagan's policies turned this country around from a time of dismal "stagflation" into a strong, healthy, jobs producing economy that created 21 million jobs. Reagan was handed a terrible economy high unemployment, high interest rates, high gas prices, high inflation and instead of blaming the previous administration, he took immediate steps to turn the economy around.

Obama was handed a tough situation and made it worse

[Sam]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

...you should address the historical fact that Reagan's policies turned this country around from a time of dismal "stagflation" into a strong, healthy, jobs producing economy that created 21 million jobs. Reagan was handed a terrible economy high unemployment, high interest rates, high gas prices, high inflation and instead of blaming the previous administration, he took immediate steps to turn the economy around.

Obama was handed a tough situation and made it worse

Ronald Reagan came in and saved us from the Jimmy Carter disaster. Now we need another Republican to come in and save us from the Barack Obama disaster. BHO is as bad as or worse than Jimmy Carter and has often been compared to him.

[Dedicated Mind]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

Oh, you got me. Wow, I can't get it past you. Hey everybody, I copied and pasted stats from wiki about Reaganomics.

There. The truth is out. I've been outed.

Do you really believe I was thinking people thought I had all these stats in my head and I'm like a walking, living, breathing book of statistics? Sheesh.

DM you should address the historical fact that Reagan's policies turned this country around from a time of dismal "stagflation" into a strong, healthy, jobs producing economy that created 21 million jobs. Reagan was handed a terrible economy high unemployment, high interest rates, high gas prices, high inflation and instead of blaming the previous administration, he took immediate steps to turn the economy around.

Obama was handed a tough situation and made it worse

i wasn't even in high school when reagan was president, so i have no experience. i know that reagan exploded the national debt, poverty rates remained the same and 2 reasons for the recovery are here:

Much of the credit for the resolution of the stagflation is given to two causes: a three year contraction of the money supply by the Federal Reserve Board under Paul Volcker, initiated in the last year of Carter's presidency,[3] and long term easing of supply and pricing in oil during the 1980s oil glut. full article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reaganomics

as you can see, federal reserve policy and the arabs caused the recovery. from the same article you plagiarized. job numbers under obama have gone up every month for 2 years. can you explain how things have gotten worse, not counting the first 6 months of obama which was the downside of bush jr? we are in recovery. you should watch the ed show to get some balance, i watch hannity sometimes. it's clear reagan had a deal with the arabs, getting the hostages realeased and iran contra.

[aegsm76]

DM - is there anything that BHO could do that would make you not vote for him?
Have you ever voted for a republican for president?
From your post, it sounds as if you are young so there may be hope for you.
As the old saying goes:
"Anyone who is 20 and not a liberal has no heart. And anyone who is 40 and not a conservative has no brain."

[Dedicated Mind]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

DM - is there anything that BHO could do that would make you not vote for him?
Have you ever voted for a republican for president?
From your post, it sounds as if you are young so there may be hope for you.
As the old saying goes:
"Anyone who is 20 and not a liberal has no heart. And anyone who is 40 and not a conservative has no brain."

i voted for h w bush when i was a fresh upc convert and in the military. morally supported dole but somehow became a democrat under clinton/gore. i can't actually vote for president living in puerto rico, a u.s. territory that can only vote for govenor and presidential primaries. i can donate though and might if obama is low on funds.

there is also a saying that you are conservative until you get arrested, then you become liberal. i actually support conservative social issues and economic liberal issues. i would gladly support ron paul if he had a chance or santorum's blue collar conservatism. its mainly about economics for the working class that i am democrat.

bo is the messiah.

[deacon blues]

I've heard it, "When you're young and single, you're probably a liberal. When you grow up, get married and have kids, you're probably a conservative." (Sorry I don't know who to give credit to here, otherwise I'd give a citation. I'd hate to be accused of plagarism.)

DM, I think most reasonable people understood that I got the stats from a source. I don't think anyone believed the stats about Reaganomics were the result of my brilliant memory. I didn't realize on this forum we have to make citations or reference the source of info we post.

Your take on the Reagan years is interesting. Still can't argue with the facts. The American economy thrived under his leadership. He empowered businesses and business owners by allowing them to keep more of their money. They used the money to grow their industries and expand and hire more people. 21 million jobs. Period. Your unusual interpretation of history is only believed by conspiracy theorists and nut job extreme liberals who cannot bring themselves to acknowledge the historical record.

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

i voted for h w bush when i was a fresh upc convert and in the military. morally supported dole but somehow became a democrat under clinton/gore. i can't actually vote for president living in puerto rico, a u.s. territory that can only vote for govenor and presidential primaries. i can donate though and might if obama is low on funds.

there is also a saying that you are conservative until you get arrested, then you become liberal. i actually support conservative social issues and economic liberal issues. i would gladly support ron paul if he had a chance or santorum's blue collar conservatism. its mainly about economics for the working class that i am democrat.

bo is the messiah.

Interesting. I had the opposite "conversion". I was a rabid liberal, union supporting, Democrat, from a family that had never had a Republican in it.
The older I become, the more libertarian I become.
I believe that BHO will be re-elected.
I also believe that this could lead to the breakup of the US as we know it.
BHO has shown that he is not bound by the rule of law, as we know it in the US.
He is determined to engage in class and racial warfare as his main means of maintaining his power base.
His methods remind me of Hitler's and of Chavez.
I hope that I am wrong.
Both about his re-election and what will happen if he is re-elected.

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

...Your unusual interpretation of history is only believed by conspiracy theorists and nut job extreme liberals who cannot bring themselves to acknowledge the historical record.

Well, the debt he left is a matter of record; I would call that interpretation kind, actually. Many have made a (pretty decent, imo) case that Reagan was led around by the nose.

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

i wasn't even in high school when reagan was president, so i have no experience. i know that reagan exploded the national debt, poverty rates remained the same and 2 reasons for the recovery are here:

Much of the credit for the resolution of the stagflation is given to two causes: a three year contraction of the money supply by the Federal Reserve Board under Paul Volcker, initiated in the last year of Carter's presidency,[3] and long term easing of supply and pricing in oil during the 1980s oil glut. full article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reaganomics

as you can see, federal reserve policy and the arabs caused the recovery. from the same article you plagiarized. job numbers under obama have gone up every month for 2 years. can you explain how things have gotten worse, not counting the first 6 months of obama which was the downside of bush jr? we are in recovery. you should watch the ed show to get some balance, i watch hannity sometimes. it's clear reagan had a deal with the arabs, getting the hostages realeased and iran contra.

yikes, do any of you guys ever change the channel from Fox News? You know you're being spoon-fed by Rupert Murdock, right? Arg.

[RevDWW]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

Interesting. I had the opposite "conversion". I was a rabid liberal, union supporting, Democrat, from a family that had never had a Republican in it.
The older I become, the more libertarian I become.
I believe that BHO will be re-elected.
I also believe that this could lead to the breakup of the US as we know it.
BHO has shown that he is not bound by the rule of law, as we know it in the US.
He is determined to engage in class and racial warfare as his main means of maintaining his power base.
His methods remind me of Hitler's and of Chavez.
I hope that I am wrong.
Both about his re-election and what will happen if he is re-elected.

From my view your post is right on the money.