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Old 05-19-2012, 10:14 PM
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I think I just transitioned into PCI.
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Old 05-19-2012, 10:16 PM
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Re: Apostolic 101

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The bible doesn't say anyone is born again of water, not John 3:3-5, not anywhere. The bible doesn't say anywhere that the blood of the Lamb is applied by water or words said over a person at baptism.
two very common misquotes by Apostolics:

Except a man is born again of the water and of the Spirit...... John 3:5)

and

Men and brethren, what must we do to be saved........ Acts 2:37
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I think I just transitioned into PCI.
Welcome to the world of the butterfly! It's hard to go back I hear.
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Old 05-19-2012, 10:18 PM
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Welcome to the world of the butterfly! It's hard to go back I hear.
Butterfly? ?
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Old 05-19-2012, 10:20 PM
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Butterfly? ?
LOL! Many others are coming but are still in metamorphosis.
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Old 05-19-2012, 10:26 PM
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I believe strongly in Jesus name baptism, because it's what we see in the Word and we will never baptize any other way. But I DON'T believe that everyone else who doesn't baptize just like us is going to be lost. Just because I have a truth that they haven't seen doesn't mean I should arrogantly condemn them to hell. There are truths that I haven't seen yet too, I'm sure. We are all growing.
Yet the words y'all say prior to the baptismal ceremony have been criticized here as being unscriptural and compromising
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Old 05-19-2012, 10:30 PM
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The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ: (1 Peter 3:21 KJV)
water baptism is a figure or picture of salvation.

water baptism does not put away any filth of the flesh

water baptism is the answer (response) of a good conscience i.e. we are clean and right with God so we respond by being baptized in water.
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Old 05-19-2012, 10:37 PM
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If this gospel is hid, it is hid to them which are lost. Anyone (adult) not baptized in Jesus name has not been born again of the water. Which is essential. John 3:3,5.





Here is how The Living Bible reads (including the marginal reading at verse 5 where the KJV speaks of “born of water”) for John 3:1-21

1,2 After dark one night a Jewish religious leader named Nicodemus, a member of the sect of the Pharisees, came for an interview with Jesus."Sir," he said, "we all know that God has sent you to teach us. Your miracles are proof enough of this."
3 Jesus replied, "With all the earnestness I posses, I tell you this: Unless you are born again, you can never get into the Kingdom of God."
4 "Born again!" exclaimed Nicodemus. "What do you mean? How can an old man go back into his mother's womb and be born again?'
5 Jesus replied, "What I am telling you so earnestly is this: Physical birth is not enough. You must be born spiritually. 6 Men can only reproduce human life, but the Holy Spirit gives new life from heaven; 7 so don't be surprised at my statement that you must be born again! 8 Just as you can hear the wind but can't tell where it comes from or where it will go next, so it is with the Spirit. We do not know on whom he will next bestow this life from heaven."
9 "What do you mean?" Nicodemus asked.
10,11 Jesus replied, "You, a respected Jewish teacher, and yet you don't understand these things? I am telling you what I know and have seen --and yet you won't believe me. 12 But if you don't even believe me when I tell you about such things as these that happen here among men, how can you possibly believe if I tell you what is going on in heaven? 13 For only I, the Messiah, have come to earth and will return to heaven again.14 And as Moses in the wilderness lifted up the bronze image of a serpent on a pole, even so I must be lifted up upon a pole. 15 so that anyone who believes in me will have eternal life. 16 For God loved the world so much that he gave his only Son so that anyone who believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 God did not send his son into the world to condemn it, but to save it.
18 "There is no eternal doom awaiting those who trust him to save them. But those who don't trust him have already been tried and condemned for not believing in the only Son of God. 19 Their sentence is based on this fact: that the Light from heaven came into the world, but they loved the darkness more than the Light, for their deeds were evil. 20 They hated the Light because they wanted to sin in the darkness. They stayed away from that Light for fear their sins would be exposed and they would be punished. 21 But those doing right come gladly to the Light to let everyone see that they are doing what God wants them to."
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And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission. (Hebrews 9:22 KJV)
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For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. (Galatians 3:27 KJV)
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