Anger + Sadness = RAGE - Page 89

acerrak · #**881** 06-05-2012, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Ferd,
Zimmerman prejudged Martin-- and that prejudgment led to Martin's death.

Walking around, looking around, in the rain, trying to get back to either his father's or his father's girlfriend's apartment at 7:15pm is suspicious.

Walking, looking around, on a sidewalk in an apartment complex, in the rain at 7:15pm is not suspicious.

Maybe at a different time of night that would seem suspicious to me-- but at 7:15pm, there's nothing suspicious about that.

please provide proof he prejudged martin. you keep saying it but im not seeing it. where is the evidence.. to zimmerman this would have been number 47 to the police station over issues in the gated community. what makes this one any different as for dealing with predjudice.

also zimmerman was in his truck parked close to the club house. He didnt follow martin in his truck. it was when martin realized this guy was on the phone looking at him he started to run. ( i havent ran from a guy talking on his phone sitting in a truck) it almost admits some sort of guilt.

at that point zimmerman ran after martin. Not to shoot him, but to keep a eye on him so he could lead the police straight to him.

Jermyn Davidson · #**882** 06-05-2012, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by acerrak

please provide proof he prejudged martin. you keep saying it but im not seeing it. where is the evidence.. to zimmerman this would have been number 47 to the police station over issues in the gated community. what makes this one any different as for dealing with predjudice.

also zimmerman was in his truck parked close to the club house. He didnt follow martin in his truck. it was when martin realized this guy was on the phone looking at him he started to run. ( i havent ran from a guy talking on his phone sitting in a truck) it almost admits some sort of guilt.

at that point zimmerman ran after martin. Not to shoot him, but to keep a eye on him so he could lead the police straight to him.

When he looked at him and thought to himself, "that guy is up tp no good-- I better call the cops," he prejudged him.

Zimmermans actions towards Martin spring from prejudice.
He prejudged Martin's intents.

Jermyn Davidson · #**883** 06-05-2012, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by acerrak

at that point zimmerman ran after martin. Not to shoot him, but to keep a eye on him so he could lead the police straight to him.

Chasing someone can definitely be seen as threatening behavior-- again providing legal protection for Martin, not Zimmerman.

What was Martin doing that was so suspicious?

Really, nothing.

CC1 · #**884** 06-05-2012, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

When he looked at him and thought to himself, "that guy is up tp no good-- I better call the cops," he prejudged him.

Zimmermans actions towards Martin spring from prejudice.
He prejudged Martin's intents.

If I have had break ins in my neighborhood and see a young black guy with a hoodie pulled up walking through you can bet your sweet bippie I would be keeping an eye on him. You may not like the stats but a huge percentage of crime is committed by young black men.

As a black comedian said a few years ago (paraphrased) "when I am about to get money out of an ATM at 10 pm it isn't the white guy in the business suit I am concerned about, it is the young black guy saggers I am worried about"

As soon as young black men stop committing an out of proportion amount of crime I will stop "pre judging" them as some call it (I call it common sense and reality).

Jermyn Davidson · #**885** 06-05-2012, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CC1

If I have had break ins in my neighborhood and see a young black guy with a hoodie pulled up walking through you can bet your sweet bippie I would be keeping an eye on him. You may not like the stats but a huge percentage of crime is committed by young black men.

As a black comedian said a few years ago (paraphrased) "when I am about to get money out of an ATM at 10 pm it isn't the white guy in the business suit I am concerned about, it is the young black guy saggers I am worried about"

As soon as young black men stop committing an out of proportion amount of crime I will stop "pre judging" them as some call it (I call it common sense and reality).

It was 7:15pm, raining, and they were in an apartment complex-- a public area.

He had every right to be there.

There is nothing inherently suspicious about that.

Again, I and MOST Americans are glad that this case will probably go to trial so that a clearer semblance of the truth will be made public.

The worst thing concerning this case (other than it happened) was the fact that it almost didn't get investigated.

Jermyn Davidson · #**886** 06-05-2012, 04:28 PM

CC1,
As soon as old white racists stop being racist, I'll stop prejudging old white people as racist.

Of course I don't feel that way, but see how loopy your argument is?

Furthermore, where is Christ in that kind of thinking?

Good night y'all.

aegsm76 · #**887** 06-05-2012, 04:58 PM

JD - can you give me a link for for 3 burglaries out of 8 or 9?

Here are some links that might show his state of mind.

http://www.andersoncooper.com/2012/0...or-speaks-out/

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2012/4/25/214812/118

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...83O18H20120425

And a quote from the reuters article:
""Let's talk about the elephant in the room. I'm black, OK?" the woman said, declining to be identified because she anticipated backlash due to her race. She leaned in to look a reporter directly in the eyes. "There were black boys robbing houses in this neighborhood," she said. "That's why George was suspicious of Trayvon Martin."

JD - you appear to have formed opinions without doing much research into the subject.

CC1 · #**888** 06-05-2012, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

CC1,
As soon as old white racists stop being racist, I'll stop prejudging old white people as racist.

Of course I don't feel that way, but see how loopy your argument is?

Furthermore, where is Christ in that kind of thinking?

Good night y'all.

I am not quite sure where Christ fits in a discussion of the FACT that a majority of violent crime is committed by young black men. That is not a racist or religious statement. It is a fact.

Does that mean I think all young black men are bad? Of course not. Does it mean I will pay particular attention to what young black men are doing around me? You bet!

canam · #**889** 06-05-2012, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Ferd,
Zimmerman prejudged Martin-- and that prejudgment led to Martin's death.

Walking, looking around, on a sidewalk in an apartment complex, in the rain at 7:15pm is not suspicious.

Maybe at a different time of night that would seem suspicious to me-- but at 7:15pm, there's nothing suspicious about that.

the same way you have pre judged zim before the evidence is in !

acerrak · #**890** 06-06-2012, 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

When he looked at him and thought to himself, "that guy is up tp no good-- I better call the cops," he prejudged him.

Zimmermans actions towards Martin spring from prejudice.
He prejudged Martin's intents.

thats not predjudice...... that is being cautious the man was walking around in the rain. he wasnt from the gated community he was looking about. it was suspecious.

come on say it, he called the cops cause he was black.. cause that is really what your wanting to get at. what other grounds could zimmerman prejudge martin on.

expecially when he has called the police so many times. BTW he called the cops on 2 men standing near the gate of the community. they was standing there. He called the cops on them... why? cause he thought them hanging out at the gate was suspicious......