The First Lady Cites Jesus Christ As An Example

[Bro. Robbins]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in the article that has anything to do with what you are talking about.


And are you around the Obama's enough to inspect their fruit?

What? Mrs. Obama's hair not long enough?

fruit has nothing to do with hair length, etc. It has to do with living out the Scriptures as Christ's body here in this earth. They are very public figures, you don't have to live next to them to see the fruit they produce.

It is obvious, you love them.... support them... and think they can do no wrong... I however, will do whatever I can to stop his and her agenda in propagating a system of soft tyranny over our nation. They together have demonstrated they want to rip apart liberty and freedom and slowly increase dependency of government. They scream for equality, when really what they desire is egalitarianism. They believe if they throw enough of Jesus, and their misguided view of him, wrapped in Social Justice and Liberation Theology, they can conceal who they really are...

You and I will just have to agree to disagree, as continuing our dialogue would be to no avail and bring about no common ground. Through this post, and even more through others, you've shown your devotion to them and support for them... so arguing would do nothing for the sake of the discussion nor for the cause of Christ.

You believe what you want to about them, and I'll believe what I believe.

[Bro. Robbins]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

The Bible doesn't teach that one who doesn't work for what they have is worst than an infidel.

The Bible does teach us to look out for the poor, orphans, widows, elderly and the strangers that may sojourn in our land.

Get it right, Bro Robbins.

1 Timothy 5:8 KJV
King James Version
But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

And yes, the Bible does instruct us to care for those that are hurting, the widows and the orphans... absolutely, but not via governmental theft and mandate.

It is to be via the church, and our own personal charity and choice. The Bible does not anywhere condone taking from me BY FORCE, and giving to someone else hurting. The Bible teaches, me operating in the love of Christ and ME giving to the poor, orphans, and widows.

I believe you are the one who needs to get it right.....

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Bro. Robbins

1 Timothy 5:8 KJV
King James Version
But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

And yes, the Bible does instruct us to care for those that are hurting, the widows and the orphans... absolutely, but not via governmental theft and mandate.

It is to be via the church, and our own personal charity and choice. The Bible does not anywhere condone taking from me BY FORCE, and giving to someone else hurting. The Bible teaches, me operating in the love of Christ and ME giving to the poor, orphans, and widows.

I believe you are the one who needs to get it right.....

Bro Robbins,
The scripture you quoted is different from what you originally stated.

You took an added liberty with a scripture to justify your aggravation with a certain evil in our society.


Satan deceived Eve by taking liberty with the Word of God.


The Bible lays the groundwork for a government providing for her citizens.

"Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's, and unto God what is God's."

Is it not fit for the government to look out for the poor, widows, orphans, elderly, infirmed, and even the stranger?

Would it be right for America to shell out billions of dollars to help the citizens of other nations and spend ZERO on helping her own citizens?

[Light]

Originally Posted by Bro. Robbins

Just another "Social Justice" diatribe. She's another government loving socialist that believes that Jesus was a socialist, that the story of "all things in common" in Acts is somehow an endorsement of communism, and that Jesus would be all for that kind of stuff.

She doesn't see where the Scriptures preach personal responsibility, keeping the government to it's God given duty, as a restrainer of evil, and that it's the job of the church to stand in the gap with benevolence, not some governmental entity.

She makes me almost as sick as her husband does.... I respect the office, and pray for it, but have very little tolerance for either of them.

When are you going to stand in the gap? How many children have you adopted?
How many homeless have you fed this week?
Talk about someone making a person sick!!!

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by Light

When are you going to stand in the gap? How many children have you adopted?
How many homeless have you fed this week?
Talk about someone making a person sick!!!

Now, now, don't get personal. It's just politics.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Neither does the Bible lay the groundwork for a government making her citizens completely dependent on the government.

The truth is somewhere in the middle-- but many people in my party refuse to acknowledge the shades of gray that must be considered when you have a government charged with leading a nation of millions of people.

Bro. Robbins,
I responded to you initially because your post aimed at Mrs. Obama in reference to the article had nothing to do with that article and very little to do with Mrs. Obama.


What could I have possibly said to lead you to not continue to engage your brother in Christ in conversation?

I'm a Conservative Republican and Christian but you have plenty of other brothers and sisters in Christ who are Liberal and Democrat.

Life and Reality is HARDLY EVER so cut and dry, black and white, right and wrong. Politics is no different.


The whole world was lost under a system called the Law-- a system that was very black and white, cut and dry.

Jesus came, made a way for people from a variety of walks, backgrounds and perceptions to have salvation through faith in His Name.

[Bishop Cleatus]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Neither does the Bible lay the groundwork for a government making their citizens completely dependent on the government.

The truth is somewhere in the middle-- but many people in my party refuse to acknowledge the shades of gray that must be considered when you have a government charged with leading a nation of millions of people.

Bro. Robbins,
I responded to you initially because your post aimed at Mrs. Obama in reference to the article had nothing to do with that article and very little to do with Mrs. Obama.

The MIDDLE?! You compromiser!

[Light]

Originally Posted by Bro. Robbins

fruit has nothing to do with hair length, etc. It has to do with living out the Scriptures as Christ's body here in this earth. They are very public figures, you don't have to live next to them to see the fruit they produce.

It is obvious, you love them.... support them... and think they can do no wrong... I however, will do whatever I can to stop his and her agenda in propagating a system of soft tyranny over our nation. They together have demonstrated they want to rip apart liberty and freedom and slowly increase dependency of government. They scream for equality, when really what they desire is egalitarianism. They believe if they throw enough of Jesus, and their misguided view of him, wrapped in Social Justice and Liberation Theology, they can conceal who they really are...

You and I will just have to agree to disagree, as continuing our dialogue would be to no avail and bring about no common ground. Through this post, and even more through others, you've shown your devotion to them and support for them... so arguing would do nothing for the sake of the discussion nor for the cause of Christ.

You believe what you want to about them, and I'll believe what I believe.

You think old George boy advanced the cause of Christ???

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Light

You think old George boy advanced the cause of Christ???

Many of us did at the time, but most won't admit it now.

If GOD raised up GWB, then he raised up OBAMA too.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Bishop Cleatus

The MIDDLE?! You compromiser!

"Blessed are the peacemakers..."