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Old 12-15-2012, 10:25 AM
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Re: School Shooting in CT

Dord, and others...

I was thinking about all this this last night. The world has always been a cruel evil place, ever since Adam and Eve messed up in the garden. Their one son, murdered their other son. Horrible, evil, terrible, incredibly sick and despicable things have taken place all down through the corridors of time.

People offering up their children as sacrifices, making their babies and children walk through fire.

Look at Sodom and Gomorrah and the terrible sick things that went on there.

Think of the hundreds of thousands of women, children and men who died at the hands an advancing army on their villages, and towns all throughout history.

Think of the people mentioned in Hebrews 12 who were cut asunder, burnt, and tortured beyond measure.

Think of the people who Nero slaughtered by the thousands.... think of our own Christ who was murdered by the very people He came to save...

Think of the Inquisition, and the Crusades, and the martyrs in Fox's Book of Martyr's ....

Think of the civil wars in nations around the world where thousands of people have died at the hands of madmen ....

Think of Hitler and his madness and the millions of Jews who died at his hands...

Think of Stalin, Mau and other Communist regime leaders who have murdered millions ....

I think you get my point.... I am not trying to undermine the travesty and the terrible tragedy of the situation that happened yesterday... but I want to speak to the mindset that we are somehow in a worse place today than the world has ever been in ... I don't know about that....

I see that evil has always played a role all throughout the pages of the world's history as we know it....

And we wonder... when will it stop? We only know that someday every knee will bow and every knee will confess.... will it be in our lifetime? Only God knows the answer... but the world has always been evil... and our darkness today is no different than the darkness that prevailed throughout the pages of our history books.

The only answer to the darkness we see around us, and in the hearts and lives of people is Christ. But they don't want to hear that.

It was amazing to me to hear the President, the mayor of the town of Newton, and other people calling out and asking people to pray for the victims, and their families... yet, we are not allowed to pray in the very schools BEFORE this tragedy took place, but after the terrible damage has been done, it is time to pray?

Where is their logic, and their reasoning in this? There is none. Let's pray after the damage has been done, but whatever we do, we cannot allow prayer or God in the schools, but as soon as a tragedy occurs, everyone is praying ? I'm scratching my head over this madness.

Does anyone else see the ridiculous in this?
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Old 12-15-2012, 10:50 AM
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You are absolutely right.
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Old 12-15-2012, 11:44 AM
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Dord, and others...

I was thinking about all this this last night. The world has always been a cruel evil place, ever since Adam and Eve messed up in the garden. Their one son, murdered their other son. Horrible, evil, terrible, incredibly sick and despicable things have taken place all down through the corridors of time.

People offering up their children as sacrifices, making their babies and children walk through fire.

Look at Sodom and Gomorrah and the terrible sick things that went on there.

Think of the hundreds of thousands of women, children and men who died at the hands an advancing army on their villages, and towns all throughout history.

Think of the people mentioned in Hebrews 12 who were cut asunder, burnt, and tortured beyond measure.

Think of the people who Nero slaughtered by the thousands.... think of our own Christ who was murdered by the very people He came to save...

Think of the Inquisition, and the Crusades, and the martyrs in Fox's Book of Martyr's ....

Think of the civil wars in nations around the world where thousands of people have died at the hands of madmen ....

Think of Hitler and his madness and the millions of Jews who died at his hands...

Think of Stalin, Mau and other Communist regime leaders who have murdered millions ....

I think you get my point.... I am not trying to undermine the travesty and the terrible tragedy of the situation that happened yesterday... but I want to speak to the mindset that we are somehow in a worse place today than the world has ever been in ... I don't know about that....

I see that evil has always played a role all throughout the pages of the world's history as we know it....

And we wonder... when will it stop? We only know that someday every knee will bow and every knee will confess.... will it be in our lifetime? Only God knows the answer... but the world has always been evil... and our darkness today is no different than the darkness that prevailed throughout the pages of our history books.

The only answer to the darkness we see around us, and in the hearts and lives of people is Christ. But they don't want to hear that.

It was amazing to me to hear the President, the mayor of the town of Newton, and other people calling out and asking people to pray for the victims, and their families... yet, we are not allowed to pray in the very schools BEFORE this tragedy took place, but after the terrible damage has been done, it is time to pray?

Where is their logic, and their reasoning in this? There is none. Let's pray after the damage has been done, but whatever we do, we cannot allow prayer or God in the schools, but as soon as a tragedy occurs, everyone is praying ? I'm scratching my head over this madness.

Does anyone else see the ridiculous in this?
Yes. Right here: nobody is forbidden to pray in school. Secondly, what do you think would have happened if there was prayer in that school that day? (There was, I'm sure, by the way. But you don't seem to think there was, so we'll go with that.)
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Yes. Right here: nobody is forbidden to pray in school. Secondly, what do you think would have happened if there was prayer in that school that day? (There was, I'm sure, but the way. But you don't seem to think there was, so we'll go with that.)
Stupid post, Timmy
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Old 12-15-2012, 11:57 AM
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Stupid post, Timmy
Why? Do you actually think this tragedy would not have happened if kids had prayed?
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Old 12-15-2012, 11:58 AM
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Why? Do you actually think this tragedy would not have happened if kids had prayed?
And do you also think that prayer is forbidden in schools?
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Old 12-15-2012, 12:00 PM
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You did not get it.

Relax, take a deep breath and read it again and think about it:
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The only answer to the darkness we see around us, and in the hearts and lives of people is Christ. But they don't want to hear that.

It was amazing to me to hear the President, the mayor of the town of Newton, and other people calling out and asking people to pray for the victims, and their families... yet, we are not allowed to pray in the very schools BEFORE this tragedy took place, but after the terrible damage has been done, it is time to pray?

Where is their logic, and their reasoning in this? There is none. Let's pray after the damage has been done, but whatever we do, we cannot allow prayer or God in the schools, but as soon as a tragedy occurs, everyone is praying ? I'm scratching my head over this madness.

Does anyone else see the ridiculous in this?
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Old 12-15-2012, 12:24 PM
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You did not get it.

Relax, take a deep breath and read it again and think about it:
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The only answer to the darkness we see around us, and in the hearts and lives of people is Christ. But they don't want to hear that.

It was amazing to me to hear the President, the mayor of the town of Newton, and other people calling out and asking people to pray for the victims, and their families... yet, we are not allowed to pray in the very schools BEFORE this tragedy took place, but after the terrible damage has been done, it is time to pray?

Where is their logic, and their reasoning in this? There is none. Let's pray after the damage has been done, but whatever we do, we cannot allow prayer or God in the schools, but as soon as a tragedy occurs, everyone is praying ? I'm scratching my head over this madness.

Does anyone else see the ridiculous in this?
I am relaxed. I took a deep breath. The statement "we are not allowed to pray in the very schools BEFORE this tragedy took place" is still not true. And I'm still wondering what you and others think would have happened differently if people had prayed.
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Is prayer allowed in churches? There have been shootings there, too.
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Old 12-15-2012, 01:20 PM
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Well, Timmy, it's not what YOU think about prayers that counts.

What counts is what Jesus says about praying.

What does Jesus say about prayer?
Jesus says in Matthew 15:7-9, You people talk about
my teachings with your mouth,
you do honor me with your lips,
but you don't do the things I say to do: you hypocrites.
In vain you worship me, teaching the commandments of men as my doctrine.

As Jesus says in Matthew 7:24-26,
Who knows my teachings and does Them, is a wise man.
Who knows my teachings and does them not is a foolish man.
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