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01-27-2013, 10:05 AM
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Re: How do you deal with a gay friend?
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I worked on a job with several gay males and a lesbian. My wifes old boss was a lesbian. We found it was best to treat them like you would any other person living in sin. Show the love of Christ, be friendly, dont lecture, just because you don't loudly proclaim your disgust for their life style and sin doesnt mean you agree with it.
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01-27-2013, 10:12 AM
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Re: How do you deal with a gay friend?
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Originally Posted by Timmy
Sorry, that didn't answer your question, did it? 
I think you are on the right track, based on your latest post. Treat him or her like any other friend. If and when "the conversation" comes up, you can certainly give your opinions on the question, but certainly allow for differences of opinion.
It's puzzling to me that many gay people are Christians, as it does seem to be against the Bible's teaching, but who knows? Maybe they're right, when they interpret things differently. It's their life, and they do what they feel they have to. They are gay, and there is no changing that. (Except, apparently, very rarely -- and then I have to wonder if the "delivered" gays were not strictly gay but bi-sexual, and simply choose to focus on the opposite gender through their own will power. Just my hunch.) |
There are are many who have been delivered from homosexuality, but unfortunately both sides seem to enjoy quoting rates of recidivism rather than focus on the miracle God can perform.
I wonder... are the rates of recidivism greater for homosexuals than all other sins? Kleptomania, pedophilia, fearfulness, envy, pride, malice?
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01-27-2013, 12:42 PM
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Re: How do you deal with a gay friend?
I would just say, I think you know how I personally feel about this subject however let's talk about things we agree on....unless the person wants to change why make them upset? Pray for them. I have a very close friend that is like a brother he is gay...I seldom see him anymore but when I do I talk about other things. We grew up together. (Next door neighbors) he was always at our house. All I can do is pray that someday he will see things in a different light. Yes, and he does go to a church that accepts him...
I would never on purpose be unkind to anyone because of their lifestyle....
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01-27-2013, 04:08 PM
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Re: How do you deal with a gay friend?
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I would just say, I think you know how I personally feel about this subject however let's talk about things we agree on....unless the person wants to change why make them upset? Pray for them. I have a very close friend that is like a brother he is gay...I seldom see him anymore but when I do I talk about other things. We grew up together. (Next door neighbors) he was always at our house. All I can do is pray that someday he will see things in a different light. Yes, and he does go to a church that accepts him...
I would never on purpose be unkind to anyone because of their lifestyle....
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Sound advice. I have family that I had to take this approach with on my side and on my wifes. No they aren't gay, they are quite traditional in their view of standards amongst other things. They love to talk about their modesty, truth is my wife and I look and dress similar to them but arrive at our conclusions on these matters a whole different way. I've concluded, if were going to get along there are some subjects we will not talk about. We avoid the subject of church altogether. We focus on our commonalities, kids, guns, travel and camping mostly. Works for us.
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01-27-2013, 04:09 PM
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I would just say, I think you know how I personally feel about this subject however let's talk about things we agree on....unless the person wants to change why make them upset? Pray for them. I have a very close friend that is like a brother he is gay...I seldom see him anymore but when I do I talk about other things. We grew up together. (Next door neighbors) he was always at our house. All I can do is pray that someday he will see things in a different light. Yes, and he does go to a church that accepts him...
I would never on purpose be unkind to anyone because of their lifestyle....
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01-27-2013, 04:20 PM
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Re: How do you deal with a gay friend?
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Originally Posted by Timmy
Sorry, that didn't answer your question, did it?
I think you are on the right track, based on your latest post. Treat him or her like any other friend. If and when "the conversation" comes up, you can certainly give your opinions on the question, but certainly allow for differences of opinion.
It's puzzling to me that many gay people are Christians, as it does seem to be against the Bible's teaching, but who knows? Maybe they're right, when they interpret things differently. It's their life, and they do what they feel they have to. They are gay, and there is no changing that. (Except, apparently, very rarely -- and then I have to wonder if the "delivered" gays were not strictly gay but bi-sexual, and simply choose to focus on the opposite gender through their own will power. Just my hunch.) |
In my experience, many 'gays' seem to outgrow their 'gayness-' I have several friends from some formative years in the Montrose, and all but one are now no longer gay? So, four out of five. I think an answer to "Why are you telling me you are gay?" rhetorically speaking, provides the answer to "How do I handle..."
Meaning that this person most often may have psychological issues-who doesn't-that they are working out in their particular way? This may not be universal, by any means.
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01-27-2013, 04:57 PM
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Re: How do you deal with a gay friend?
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How do you deal with a fellow Christian who is gay?
The Bible is clear that this is sin. And I have a feeling that the conversation of "if this is sinful, why did God make me gay?" is going to come up soon. And I want to handle it rightly.
Has anyone else been through this before? Any tips? Speaking in love and directly from the Bible are in my arsenal now. I just want to make really sure that if/when the conversation comes up, I handle it with love and the right spirit.
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If the person is sincere and wants to know, then inform him of the truth in a spirit of love and humility.
Homosexuals, like all of us, are born into sin with a sin nature.
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01-27-2013, 04:57 PM
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Re: How do you deal with a gay friend?
Montrose. Overrated.
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01-27-2013, 05:00 PM
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Re: How do you deal with a gay friend?
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Montrose. Overrated.
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It is a decent neighborhood.
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01-27-2013, 05:48 PM
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Re: How do you deal with a gay friend?
A lot of good advice on this thread so far (oh, and a couple of "iffy" ones!).
I think as Christians we sometimes struggle with being how to treat people who we believe are not only living a blatant sinful lifestyle but who are part of a sub culture determined to undermine marriage, Christian values, and force our children to be taught that homosexuality is just fine even if we believe the bible clearly teaches it is not.
The solution is to remember to hate the sin and the "movement" pushing the sin while still exhibiting Christian love, kindness, charity, etc to the persons caught up in it.
How are we going to show them Christ loves them and wants them to give their life to him if we are ugly to them or ignore them?
It is against my carnal nature to be kind and friendly to them as individuals while still taking a strong stand against the sin but I do. There is a lesbian at work who I pretty much was able to ignore for years because we did not work directly together but a few years ago her role changed and we have more interaction. She is a very personable, funny, and kind person who speaks to me every day asking how I am doing etc. Over time it has been easier for me to sincerely be kind to her.
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