School assembly with guys in skirts!

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by ILG

I think there is a difference between doing it as a joke and doing it for real. The only concern is, as KBTW said, is breaking down barriers. But then, being funny does often push boundaries.

I agree that years ago it was funny, because no one even considered it as a possibility of ever really taking place. Nowadays... a different story. This was my husband's opinion too on the matter.

Originally Posted by ILG

There is so much stuff that goes on in schools. I don't know what I would do if my kids were school aged now. I haven't had to think about that for a while. It's a tough thing.

Yes, public school education today is a far different thing than it was when I went to school. My kids are seeing things and dealing with things that I've never had to deal with. Two gay boys sitting at lunch next to my daughter discussing their "gay" activities. It makes me gag just thinking about what my kids have to see and hear every day they go to school.

And... this behavior is not just limited to public schools. I've looked into private schools in our area, and talked to other parents who have enrolled their children because of the same issues, and they didn't find much difference in the behaviors at private school, as opposed to public school. It is because the entire generational moral character has so declined.

Home schooling is an option, but one that we've never considered because we've always felt that our kids need to learn how to deal with the "real" world while we as parents are there to help, encourage, and support them.

I've seen too many horror stories of homeschooled children going to college, and spiraling into a terrible state because they had no social skills to deal with the issues that the real world throws at them. For that reason, we have not ever chosen to do home school, because we want our children to have the social skills and abilities to deal with the junk the world throws at them while we as parents are there to support and encourage them, and help them get through it.

Our family sits around the dinner table every evening, and discuss the events of their day. We pray together, and read the Bible together as a family. My kids share their concerns with us and we pray with them, and give them advice and try to find solutions to their dilemma within the word of God.

We have taught our children that they are to consider school as their mission field, and as a chance to be a witness to a dark world. Going to a school like this is no different than a missionary going to the far off corners of the world and teaching folks about Jesus. These children (for the most part) have no knowledge about Jesus.

In fact, my daughter and son both tell me that many of their friends confide their problems to them, because they think my kids "don't have any problems" (not true of course they are teenagers and aren't perfect) but these kids here know my kids will care and pray for them.

Many times during our family prayer, my kids are praying for their friends at school. I believe the Lord is doing a work through them, allowing them to be a light in the darkness.

It is for this reason that I feel the Lord would have us continue to allow our kids to attend this school. But at the same time, I just can't stand by and see this kind of behavior going on in such a public manner, without saying something. After all.... our tax dollars are paying for my children's education, and I do have a right to say something...

[ILG]

I have been told of college aged kids having to put up with people having sex in the next dorm bed right next to them.

What is weird about all of this is that it is considered so "normal" and you are the strange one if you think differently. Now, I would probably not be too concerned about the skit....but there are many other things out there that are very concerning and it seems there is just no boundaries or morals. Sometimes choosing which battle to fight can be difficult.

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by ILG

I have been told of college aged kids having to put up with people having sex in the next dorm bed right next to them.

Wow. I hadn't heard that one, but somehow, I'm not surprised.

Originally Posted by ILG

What is weird about all of this is that it is considered so "normal" and you are the strange one if you think differently. Now, I would probably not be too concerned about the skit....but there are many other things out there that are very concerning and it seems there is just no boundaries or morals. Sometimes choosing which battle to fight can be difficult.

Yes, I'll admit that perhaps I jumped the gun with this one, but it was because of all the things my kids have told me. There are indeed so many other concerning issues, which make you wonder where the line gets drawn - where is all this taking us? That I guess is the dilemma we are facing.

[MawMaw]

Originally Posted by MarieA27

I'm wondering why does it even matter? People say that women can wear pants, and that they're not man's attire, so why would it be wrong for men to wear dresses, if it's not "women's attire"? If this trend becomes normal, and they start making dresses for men, what's wrong with it? Not every man that wants or desires to wear dresses is trying to push some kind of "gay agenda". Maybe they just want to wear it them, because it's more comfortable than their pants.


I remember that there was a similar such outcry back then in America, when women starting wearing pants, and now it's normal. If culture, society and history dictates what we can or can't wear, then there really shouldn't be any anger or what have you regarding this issue...

I agree.

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

Yes, I agree with you on this. Where will all this "gender blurring" end? With it being okay in about 10-15 years for men to walk around in skirts, high heels, pantyhose, and makeup? Men buying these things in the men's department? Is such a thing around the corner for the next generation?

Most likely.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

Wow. I hadn't heard that one, but somehow, I'm not surprised.




Yes, I'll admit that perhaps I jumped the gun with this one, but it was because of all the things my kids have told me. There are indeed so many other concerning issues, which make you wonder where the line gets drawn - where is all this taking us? That I guess is the dilemma we are facing.

Yes, it can be scary, for sure. I don't know if anyone really knows where it will all lead to but we can see where we have gone from the 1950's to now. Some good progress and some terrible permissiveness. It's certainly hard to raise kids now.

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by PastorTLArt

For the Love of mercy, I wish "christian" parents would STOP sending their children to public school if they are so afraid that some non existent "agenda" will be pushed on their children. If you worry about it so much, for Heavens sake, HOME SCHOOL them or send them to a "christian" school that shares your views.

Well, you deny an agenda, when satan is in control of the domain? And, one supposedly 'Under God?' Our public schools are supposed to be "Christian," nominally.

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

Home schooling is an option, but one that we've never considered because we've always felt that our kids need to learn how to deal with the "real" world while we as parents are there to help, encourage, and support them...

Well, but they're kids, spending more time there, than with you, effectively, yes? How much might the world be actually dealing with them?

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

I've seen too many horror stories of homeschooled children going to college, and spiraling into a terrible state because they had no social skills to deal with the issues that the real world throws at them. For that reason, we have not ever chosen to do home school, because we want our children to have the social skills and abilities to deal with the junk the world throws at them while we as parents are there to support and encourage them, and help them get through it.

There are ways to deal with this that avoid the unremitting onslaught.

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

...Going to a school like this is no different than a missionary going to the far off corners of the world...

I can think of a crucial difference; a missionary has 1) matured, and also volunteered; but any supposedly has done that...a missionary is also trained for this...not the same, to me.

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

In fact, my daughter and son both tell me that many of their friends confide their problems to them, because they think my kids "don't have any problems" (not true of course they are teenagers and aren't perfect) but these kids here know my kids will care and pray for them.

Many times during our family prayer, my kids are praying for their friends at school. I believe the Lord is doing a work through them, allowing them to be a light in the darkness.

It is for this reason that I feel the Lord would have us continue to allow our kids to attend this school. But at the same time, I just can't stand by and see this kind of behavior going on in such a public manner, without saying something. After all.... our tax dollars are paying for my children's education, and I do have a right to say something

Ha I'd be screaming bloody murder; and your kids sound like the exception, I guess. I might wonder at what cost to their genuine education, but most of that is prolly yack anyway, if they are focused on what they want to be when they grow up already. Best of luck to them and you, and I'll be including ALL kids in this position in my prayers.

[Titus2woman]

All five of my boys cheered at Powder Puff Football and they are all hetro and I don't have a cross-dresser in the bunch.

We belonged to the most strict church in the district and still every year at our talent show or one of the big dramas there would be at least one guy in womens clothes for a skit or role... I think it is usually funny... Flip Wilson with Geraldine, Tyler Perry with Madia and a lot of old and new comedians have had female characters. None of them became homosexual.

I can't imagine the pair of Carhart overalls that would make me change my sexual preference... or the hair bow and pom-poms that could make my husband want to have sex with a man. I think the abomination is in cross-dressing for sexual pleasure, not for a joke. I would just not get too wound up about it... But that's just me.

And of course I think most make up looks just as gross on women as men... so no real dif there.

[Titus2woman]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

I agree that years ago it was funny, because no one even considered it as a possibility of ever really taking place. Nowadays... a different story. This was my husband's opinion too on the matter.



Yes, public school education today is a far different thing than it was when I went to school. My kids are seeing things and dealing with things that I've never had to deal with. Two gay boys sitting at lunch next to my daughter discussing their "gay" activities. It makes me gag just thinking about what my kids have to see and hear every day they go to school.

And... this behavior is not just limited to public schools. I've looked into private schools in our area, and talked to other parents who have enrolled their children because of the same issues, and they didn't find much difference in the behaviors at private school, as opposed to public school. It is because the entire generational moral character has so declined.

Home schooling is an option, but one that we've never considered because we've always felt that our kids need to learn how to deal with the "real" world while we as parents are there to help, encourage, and support them.

I've seen too many horror stories of homeschooled children going to college, and spiraling into a terrible state because they had no social skills to deal with the issues that the real world throws at them. For that reason, we have not ever chosen to do home school, because we want our children to have the social skills and abilities to deal with the junk the world throws at them while we as parents are there to support and encourage them, and help them get through it.

Our family sits around the dinner table every evening, and discuss the events of their day. We pray together, and read the Bible together as a family. My kids share their concerns with us and we pray with them, and give them advice and try to find solutions to their dilemma within the word of God.

We have taught our children that they are to consider school as their mission field, and as a chance to be a witness to a dark world. Going to a school like this is no different than a missionary going to the far off corners of the world and teaching folks about Jesus. These children (for the most part) have no knowledge about Jesus.

In fact, my daughter and son both tell me that many of their friends confide their problems to them, because they think my kids "don't have any problems" (not true of course they are teenagers and aren't perfect) but these kids here know my kids will care and pray for them.

Many times during our family prayer, my kids are praying for their friends at school. I believe the Lord is doing a work through them, allowing them to be a light in the darkness.

It is for this reason that I feel the Lord would have us continue to allow our kids to attend this school. But at the same time, I just can't stand by and see this kind of behavior going on in such a public manner, without saying something. After all.... our tax dollars are paying for my children's education, and I do have a right to say something...

Really this is just a taste of what the world is like now. I sit in the lunch room at work and hear about people I work with having three-somes with their husbands and other women, watching pornos with their boyfriends, buying sex toys, etc. There is simply no shame in anything sexual in many circles now. It is noting for women to admit to having had scores of sexual partners when asked by the doctor (yes, it's a routine question at the GYN) and they don't bat an eye when they say it. I am asked weekly by a pregnant woman if there is DNA to identify the father of her baby before it is born because there is more than one choice and they want to know who to seek support from.

I personally don't think there is any unringing this bell. We just have to be aware of what is really out there and educate our children about sin and it's consequences. And we need to live in a way that they know we mean what we say and see how it has blessed us to live the way we do. They have to WANT this because there is ever other choice out there... and really no way to shelter then from knowing it.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Titus2woman

Really this is just a taste of what the world is like now. I sit in the lunch room at work and hear about people I work with having three-somes with their husbands and other women, watching pornos with their boyfriends, buying sex toys, etc. There is simply no shame in anything sexual in many circles now. It is noting for women to admit to having had scores of sexual partners when asked by the doctor (yes, it's a routine question at the GYN) and they don't bat an eye when they say it. I am asked weekly by a pregnant woman if there is DNA to identify the father of her baby before it is born because there is more than one choice and they want to know who to seek support from.

I personally don't think there is any unringing this bell. We just have to be aware of what is really out there and educate our children about sin and it's consequences. And we need to live in a way that they know we mean what we say and see how it has blessed us to live the way we do. They have to WANT this because there is ever other choice out there... and really no way to shelter then from knowing it.

Wow, I am surprised the women around you talk about that stuff!

Anyway, I also think the thing is there is no unringing this bell. We can't go back to before the sexual revolution. This is our culture now whether we like it or not. I don't like it, but the only thing I can do is choose for myself. I can't even choose for my children but I did and still do teach them my morals (even though they are adults). I grieve for this society that I think has lost so much.