End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Sasha

So, what do your female Sunday School teachers teach those children?

I could be wrong but he does not believe in female Sunday School teachers unless they are teaching other females..

Same goes for teaching bible studies on salvation.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by rdp

LOL - Seriously?


Of course biblical teachers are preachers - is this the best you can do?


Acts 5.42: And every day, in the temple and from house to house, they kept right on teaching and preaching Jesus [as] the Christ.



Did they cease doing one while they were doing the other ?

The very fact it says teaching AND preaching shows these were two distinct Actions or Functions.

The word for Preach here is where we get our word Evangelize

Zodhaites
εὐαγγελίζω
euaggelízō; fut. euaggelísō, aor. euēggélisa, from euággelos (n.f.), bringing good news, which is from eu (G2095), good, well, and aggéllō (n.f.), to proclaim, tell. To evangelize, proclaim the good news, preach the gospel. It was at the time that the first Christians were "scattered abroad, and went about preaching the Word" after the martyrdom of Stephen (he being one of the seven), that the verb euaggelízō (G2097), to publish the good tidings or good news, was used by Luke in Act_8:4, Act_8:12, Act_8:25, Act_8:35, Act_8:40.

Used in the act. voice meaning to declare, proclaim (Rev_10:7; Rev_14:6); in the pass. voice, euaggelízomai, of matters to be proclaimed as glad tidings (Luk_16:16; Gal_1:11; 1Pe_1:25); of persons to whom the proclamation is made (Mat_11:5; Luk_7:22; Heb_4:2, Heb_4:6; 1Pe_4:6); in the mid. voice especially of the message of salvation with a personal obj., either of the person preached (Act_5:42; Act_11:20; Gal_1:16), or with a prep., of persons evangelized (Act_8:12; Act_13:32; Eph_3:8). Not found in Gospel of Mark, or the epistles and Gospel of John, only once in the Gospel of Matthew, and twice in the Book of the Revelation. Related to euaggélion (G2098), a good message. Also from euággelos (n.f.): euaggélion (G2098), good news.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by RJR

In regards to Eph 4:11 being preachers you responded...



All that would be necessary is to show where an apostle, prophet, evangelist, pastor and teacher ever preached. Yes, they are preachers! Truly, I amazed at the straws that many will grasp for instead of embracing what the Bible says...

A woman is not speak in the church, which has been clearly demonstrated to be in the sense of teaching and exercising authority over the man.

Whether or not any person who holds any one of the 5 fold ministry ever preaches is irrelevant. It does not make "Preacher" one of the 5 fold ministries.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by rdp

Besides, how can anyone "preach" without referencing the Scriptures? And this is EXACTLY what women are forbidden to do in the church (i.e., exposit from the Scriptures to men - http://biblehub.com/greek/1321.htm).


In fact, the NASB even translates the verb "teach" (διδάσκω) as "preach" in one place -clearly demonstrating overlap in the two terms.


Further - "When Jesus had finished giving instructions to His twelve disciples, He departed from there to teach and preach in their cities" (Matthew 11:1 --- & there innumerable more identical examples).


Clearly He did not cease doing one while doing the other.

Many preachers quote one verse and then never really mention it again but give anecdotal evidences.

Ive even heard some who read no verses at all.

Many times when Jesus spoke he did not quote verses from the OT and expound on them.

What did Jesus preach

Mat 4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach, saying, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand."

[Sasha]

Originally Posted by RJR

I agree, it does not appear too many women posting on this thread has a man of God who is over them.

Heb 13:7
Heb 13:17
Heb 13:24
1 Tim 5:17
1 Thes 5:12
1 Tim 3:5
1 Pet 5:2

Pastoral authority is totally different than spousal authority, don't you agree?

Or do you allow your pastor to tell your wife what to do and have authority over her in all things, including matters that are between you and her?

[Sasha]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

I could be wrong but he does not believe in female Sunday School teachers unless they are teaching other females..

Same goes for teaching bible studies on salvation.

Such a shame that someone would believe that a woman having a Bible study in a couple's home would have to dismiss the man from the room as to not be teaching him.

The Bible says that Timothy was taught by his mother and grandmother. It doesn't say they stopped teaching him anything once he became an adult.

[Sasha]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Whether or not any person who holds any one of the 5 fold ministry ever preaches is irrelevant. It does not make "Preacher" one of the 5 fold ministries.

He misspoke anyway. Him, RJR, and Pliny all have stated that prophets are not preachers.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Sasha

He misspoke anyway. Him, RJR, and Pliny all have stated that prophets are not preachers.

Interesting

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I agree with you 100% here. I agree that women are to only act under authority, and I agree the exceptions are allowed for inspiration by the Spirit.



I'm not assuming that. I'm simply pointing out that, due to lack of evidence to the contrary, you can't assert definitively that he was not. Ergo, it's a poor argument.

So you have no positive proof for your assertion. Not to worry, I didn't expect any. Based upon your logic Luke was a pilot since he is never said not to be a pilot...

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

Luke tells us that Saul “dragged off men and women and put them in prison” (Acts 8:3; 9:2; 22:4). In a society that often ignored women and probably did not have prisons for women, it is striking that Luke tells us three times that Saul persecuted women as well as men. Saul apparently viewed Christian women as a serious threat to Jewish orthodoxy, probably because they were spreading the gospel....v.4 says they went everywhere preaching...I say this includes women.....

Proof once again that you don't know what you are talking about. Fallacy after fallacy after fallacy.

Persecution is not the standard of truth. Heretics were persecuted as well. Therefore, since persecution seems to be your standard of truth heretics, like Gnostics, were preachers of truth. Ludicrous to be sure.

FTR Gnostics taught Christ did not have a true human nature. He only appeared to have a human nature...