End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11

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Originally Posted by Pliny

...With that said the passage is literal. However, Paul made exceptions to this. He is simply preventing women from taking the initiative in speaking and allows for exceptions when there are genuine pneumatic endowment - Holy Ghost inspiration through the gifts of the Spirit.

I agree with you 100% here. I agree that women are to only act under authority, and I agree the exceptions are allowed for inspiration by the Spirit.

Originally Posted by Pliny

This is an argument from silence. You assume Luke preached when that has never been hinted at. ....

I'm not assuming that. I'm simply pointing out that, due to lack of evidence to the contrary, you can't assert definitively that he was not. Ergo, it's a poor argument.

Originally Posted by rdp

Teaching & Preaching are used interchangeably in Scripture. Or, are you suggesting that when someone is "teaching" they are not "preaching" ?

I'm only interested in the biblical definition and apparent distinction between the two.

Shall I repost (for about the 50th time) the lexical definition of "teach" in I Tim. 2.12 - (only to be completely ignored of course)?

Sure. Repost it.

Originally Posted by RJR

I am not so sure the early church had a clear line of demarcation between the two. Teaching can clearly become preaching and vice versa.

Notice the interchangeableness of the terms in these parallel gospels.

Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Mar 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Col 1:28 Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:

Act 5:42 And daily in the temple, and in every house, they ceased not to teach and preach Jesus Christ....

I do see that, but the definitions aren't interchangeable. When Mark said "preach" he used the word "kerysso", and Matthew used the word teach (matheteuo) which has a very different meaning. Was one of them misquoting?

If you take Colossians 1:28 apart and couple it with your position, you could argue that anyone can "preach" to "warn every man", but women must refrain from "teaching...wisdom."

Originally Posted by RJR

...Would you say that the ministry referred to in Eph 4:11 was not preachers?

I don't think they are necessarily preachers. The only role that seems to demand it would be that of the evangelist, and that one is subjective. I actually was surprised to find that it didn't mention preachers. I had forgotten and mentally replaced "pastors" with "preachers."