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12-01-2015, 07:35 PM
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Unvaxxed Pureblood
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Re: Another 9-11 conspiracy nut?
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Let's see the proof
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The claim itself, coming from a FEMA videographer working at Ground Zero, doesn't raise a question in your mind? Seriously? The guy isn't Shazeep.
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12-02-2015, 12:14 AM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: Another 9-11 conspiracy nut?
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Originally Posted by Esaias
The guy worked at Ground Zero. He never claimed to be a paid firefighter. He acknowledged from the get-go he was an 'honorary firefighter' for his volunteer work at Ground Zero.
He is not the only one involved in the FDR recovery effort.
I find it fascinating that the statements of numerous people actually and directly involved in what happened that day are ignored in favour of the 'Official Conspiracy Theory' (tm).
Apparently you believe he is just lying about what he says he saw. What about the other guy? What about the other people involved? What about the 9-11 Commission members themselves? What about various experts involved in the aftermath and investigation(s) who do not parrot the party line on what happened?
All that is to be thrown out and ignored because... why, exactly?
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He is a grocery worker. Your whole theory has to rely on his word....which is a money making venture for him
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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12-02-2015, 12:15 AM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: Another 9-11 conspiracy nut?
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Originally Posted by Esaias
The claim itself, coming from a FEMA videographer working at Ground Zero, doesn't raise a question in your mind? Seriously? The guy isn't Shazeep.
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Let's see the video....
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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12-02-2015, 12:16 AM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: Another 9-11 conspiracy nut?
Do you really believe that because some guy worked for FEMA...it makes him reliable?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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12-02-2015, 12:19 AM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: Another 9-11 conspiracy nut?
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Originally Posted by Esaias
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_29...-denver-murder
Former FEMA videographer who filmed the aftermath and rescue operations during and immediately after 9-11, whose video footage was 'broadcast around the world', claiming that some of his video footage proves government complicity in the 9-11 attacks... yeah, he's just some crazy internet tin-foil smoking weirdo, I'm sure.
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"He maintains his video proves U.S. authorities were conspirators in the 9/11 attack. He claims members of President George W. Bush's government wanted to draw the country into a war with Iraq."
How does a video of Ground Zero prove US authorities were conspirators? How does it prove members of Bush's government wanted to draw the country into a war with Iraq? Does it show Rumsfeld standing on the rumble confessing it all?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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12-02-2015, 07:39 AM
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Unvaxxed Pureblood too
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Re: Another 9-11 conspiracy nut?
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Do you really believe that because some guy worked for FEMA...it makes him reliable?
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What makes anyone a reliable source? Nothing less than the United States president proclaiming guilt could settle the issue. Hey two airliners filled with fuel hit three separate buildings and all three buildings fall down into their own footprint.
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12-02-2015, 07:55 AM
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Re: Another 9-11 conspiracy nut?
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Originally Posted by FlamingZword
If it wasn't for that guy with a gun obtaining and protecting your freedom, you would have no freedom whatsoever to spread your loony conspiracy theories.
But of course to you even that is a conspiracy.
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so iow i am loony because i trust God to protect me, and not your violent tendencies. Ok. I don't need or want the world's version of freedom, FZ. You are a citizen of a country; i am an ambassador of a kingdom.
Last edited by shazeep; 12-02-2015 at 08:15 AM.
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12-02-2015, 05:27 PM
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Unvaxxed Pureblood too
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Re: Another 9-11 conspiracy nut?
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Originally Posted by shazeep
so iow i am loony because i trust God to protect me, and not your violent tendencies. Ok. I don't need or want the world's version of freedom, FZ. You are a citizen of a country; i am an ambassador of a kingdom.
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Hey ambassador lighten up. 
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"all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
~Declaration of Independence
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12-03-2015, 08:51 AM
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Re: Another 9-11 conspiracy nut?
hey citizen, change your mind.
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12-03-2015, 08:10 PM
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Pride of the Neighborhood
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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Re: Another 9-11 conspiracy nut?
A lot of highly educated, intellectual, seemingly credible people were convinced Jews were subhuman in 1930s Germany.
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