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Old 12-01-2015, 12:03 AM
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Re: Another 9-11 conspiracy nut?

No one cares.
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Old 12-01-2015, 12:08 AM
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No one cares.
Well, maybe not here on THIS forum (except for a handful of people, perhaps), but actually quite a lot of people care out there in The Real World (tm).

Do you care?
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Old 12-01-2015, 12:14 AM
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When American Christians look to the cross it is veiled by the American Flag. People don't want truth, but their perception of it.
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Old 12-01-2015, 12:27 AM
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When American Christians look to the cross it is veiled by the American Flag. People don't want truth, but their perception of it.
Ah, I see. And unfortunately I think you are right concerning a large number of professing Christians in America.
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Old 12-01-2015, 07:06 AM
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Re: Another 9-11 conspiracy nut?

that is a hard bridge for people to cross. We are raised on Patriotism. "Hero" now includes a guy with a gun.
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Old 12-01-2015, 05:52 PM
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that is a hard bridge for people to cross. We are raised on Patriotism. "Hero" now includes a guy with a gun.
If it wasn't for that guy with a gun obtaining and protecting your freedom, you would have no freedom whatsoever to spread your loony conspiracy theories.

But of course to you even that is a conspiracy.
Circular reasoning taken to its ultimate extreme.
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Old 12-01-2015, 06:10 PM
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http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_29...-denver-murder



Former FEMA videographer who filmed the aftermath and rescue operations during and immediately after 9-11, whose video footage was 'broadcast around the world', claiming that some of his video footage proves government complicity in the 9-11 attacks... yeah, he's just some crazy internet tin-foil smoking weirdo, I'm sure.
Let's see the proof
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Old 12-01-2015, 06:19 PM
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NY Firefighters involved in the rescue and cleanup efforts and FDR recovery efforts at Ground Zero are obviously nutjob internet troll tinfoil drinkers, right?

http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/black_box.html
Oh...if the CN would only do some research

The New York Post
April 5, 2004 Monday
SECTION: All Editions; Pg. 15
HEADLINE: 9/11 TOUR FUROR - FIRE MARSHALS PROBE GROUND ZERO EXHIBIT
BYLINE: JEANE MacINTOSH

A New York charity that runs a traveling exhibit of Ground Zero "artifacts" - including part of a plane, pieces of destroyed buildings and earrings, shoes and eyeglasses belonging to victims - is under investigation by city fire marshals, The Post has learned.

And Fire Department brass has warned the group - which won't say where or how it obtained many items - to stop claiming ties to FDNY and dressing in its uniforms.

"The fire marshals have opened an investigation into this group," FDNY spokesman David Billig confirmed.

Members of the organization, Trauma Response Assistance for Children (TRAC) Team, a registered nonprofit charity, cross the country talking to schoolkids and civic groups. The group wears Fire Department garb during presentations, but isn't sanctioned by the department.

"This group has no right to imply it works for or acts in any official FDNY capacity," Billig said. They are "not authorized to wear Fire Department uniforms."

TRAC founder Mike Bellone said he means no harm: "We're just a group of guys who want to share our experiences from Ground Zero and show kids that hope can spring from a horrible tragedy."

The group has done more than 700 presentations nationwide, he said.
TRAC doesn't charge for appearances and relies on sales of a self-published book and souvenirs - such as shirts, patches and snow globes carrying the FDNY logo - for revenue.

But, Bellone said, "Our hosts, if they can afford it, pay our room and board."
Billig said the products TRAC sells aren't officially licensed by FDNY.
Bellone, a former grocery worker, was named an "honorary firefighter" by friends at a ladder company for his Ground Zero work, where he was given "visitor" access to the site.

His group's press releases read, "FDNY and TRAC Team Present," and its members' shirt patches are emblazoned with the words "TRAC Team - FDNY." But only one of them, Bob Barrett, a retired firefighter, is legitimately FDNY. The other four or so men are Bellone's pals.
Still, Bellone insists, "We don't give the idea I work for FDNY, or that TRAC is connected to them. If someone got that idea, I apologize."
As for the artifacts, Bellone said: "It never occurred to me that anyone would have a problem with it. We tried to return some of the stuff, but if nobody wanted it, we thought, 'Why not use it for educational purposes?' If someone wants something back, just tell me."

TRAC's troubles might run deeper than the exhibit investigation.

http://www.911myths.com/index.php/The_Black_Boxes
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Old 12-01-2015, 06:21 PM
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NY Firefighters involved in the rescue and cleanup efforts and FDR recovery efforts at Ground Zero are obviously nutjob internet troll tinfoil drinkers, right?

http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/black_box.html
He isn't even a real fire fighter. He had no business being out there...IF he was out there at all.
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Old 12-01-2015, 07:31 PM
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Re: Another 9-11 conspiracy nut?

The guy worked at Ground Zero. He never claimed to be a paid firefighter. He acknowledged from the get-go he was an 'honorary firefighter' for his volunteer work at Ground Zero.

He is not the only one involved in the FDR recovery effort.

I find it fascinating that the statements of numerous people actually and directly involved in what happened that day are ignored in favour of the 'Official Conspiracy Theory' (tm).

Apparently you believe he is just lying about what he says he saw. What about the other guy? What about the other people involved? What about the 9-11 Commission members themselves? What about various experts involved in the aftermath and investigation(s) who do not parrot the party line on what happened?

All that is to be thrown out and ignored because... why, exactly?
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