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View Poll Results: Is Acts 2:38 as described below the only new birth
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12-22-2015, 04:29 PM
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Unvaxxed Pureblood
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Re: New Birth
JD, you're teaching works based salvation. No where does the Bible say a person has to "feel" anything to be saved. Otherwise, you'd never know if you felt correctly or sufficiently.
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12-22-2015, 04:30 PM
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Re: New Birth
JD, how does baptism save us after we're already saved?
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12-22-2015, 04:32 PM
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Re: New Birth
JD, did you ever find those tails that got cut off? I haven't been able to locate them...
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12-22-2015, 04:33 PM
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Location: In His Hands
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Re: New Birth
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Originally Posted by Esaias
So, JD, a person can get saved - they are now a child of God - but they're still cheating on their spouse. So they can honest to goodness believe they are bound for glory - even though they haven't stopped cheating on their spouse. "Oh, someday... when the good Lord gets around to that particular aspect of my life...but until then, I'm saaaaaaavvvveeeddddd!!!!!!!"
Uh, I don't THINK so.
Homey don't play dat.
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It is possible for a person to repent, get baptized, be filled with the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in other tongues and still have an inclination to sin that may lead that person to sin again after the initial "emotional high" that God graciously allows to accompany a new convert's salvation.
When that new convert falls, you don't encourage that new convert to do everything all over again. You encourage the new convert to dust themselves off and keep walking forward.
By the way, I now realize that we are both so 1990's!
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12-22-2015, 04:36 PM
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Re: New Birth
lol
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12-22-2015, 07:08 PM
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Re: New Birth
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Originally Posted by Esaias
JD, you're teaching works based salvation. No where does the Bible say a person has to "feel" anything to be saved. Otherwise, you'd never know if you felt correctly or sufficiently.
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Nothing I have said reflects a works-based salvation.
I have looked for it. Is there something I said in another thread that you might be referring to?
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12-22-2015, 07:10 PM
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Re: New Birth
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Originally Posted by Esaias
JD, how does baptism save us after we're already saved?
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That entire scripture shows that it isn't the act of going down in the water but it is the good conscience from which the act comes from. That good conscience is a reflection of a conversion that has already happened (within the context of this scripture).
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12-22-2015, 07:12 PM
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Re: New Birth
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Originally Posted by Esaias
JD, did you ever find those tails that got cut off? I haven't been able to locate them...
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It was a pretty outrageous claim-- I admit.
However, it is a claim that I intend to find again and back up on AFF. I wasn't just making it up.
There was a brutal battle in the Old Testament where after the battle, the Israelites emasculated their enemies.
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12-22-2015, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
That entire scripture shows that it isn't the act of going down in the water but it is the good conscience from which the act comes from. That good conscience is a reflection of a conversion that has already happened (within the context of this scripture).
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It still says baptism saves.
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12-22-2015, 07:16 PM
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Re: New Birth
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
I believe the Bible teaches that a person who is coming to saving faith in Christ will reflect a sorrow for their sins and a desire to please their GOD and Savior.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Esaias
JD, you're teaching works based salvation. No where does the Bible say a person has to "feel" anything to be saved. Otherwise, you'd never know if you felt correctly or sufficiently.
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Is this what you are talking about?
I am pretty sure that repentance includes a certain amount of contrition...
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