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12-03-2015, 08:23 PM
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Re: Another 9-11 conspiracy nut?
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Originally Posted by FlamingZword
If it wasn't for that guy with a gun obtaining and protecting your freedom, you would have no freedom whatsoever to spread your loony conspiracy theories.
But of course to you even that is a conspiracy.
Circular reasoning taken to its ultimate extreme. 
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12-03-2015, 09:02 PM
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Re: Another 9-11 conspiracy nut?
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A lot of highly educated, intellectual, seemingly credible people were convinced Jews were subhuman in 1930s Germany.
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So, now it's the Muslim's turn?
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12-04-2015, 12:10 PM
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Re: Another 9-11 conspiracy nut?
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
"He maintains his video proves U.S. authorities were conspirators in the 9/11 attack. He claims members of President George W. Bush's government wanted to draw the country into a war with Iraq."
How does a video of Ground Zero prove US authorities were conspirators? How does it prove members of Bush's government wanted to draw the country into a war with Iraq? Does it show Rumsfeld standing on the rumble confessing it all?
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I don't know. And neither do you. The point is, that I was making, and succeeded at doing so, is that there are lots of people who question the Official Conspiracy Theory (tm), and many of those people are not internet whackadoos or meme-bots. You have to ask, 'Why?' Why do so many people - including several members of the 9-11 Commission itself - say the Official Conspiracy Theory (tm) is not the whole truth? That the American people have been denied an open, honest investigation of what really happened?
To simply relegate all such questions to the rubbish bin as the rantings of lunatics defies all reason. It shows contempt prior to investigation. It shows 'my mind is made up, don't bother me with facts'. It shows an agenda that is opposed to open, intelligent discussion of all the evidence.
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12-04-2015, 12:19 PM
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Re: Another 9-11 conspiracy nut?
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Originally Posted by Esaias
I don't know. And neither do you. The point is, that I was making, and succeeded at doing so, is that there are lots of people who question the Official Conspiracy Theory (tm), and many of those people are not internet whackadoos or meme-bots. You have to ask, 'Why?' Why do so many people - including several members of the 9-11 Commission itself - say the Official Conspiracy Theory (tm) is not the whole truth? That the American people have been denied an open, honest investigation of what really happened?
To simply relegate all such questions to the rubbish bin as the rantings of lunatics defies all reason. It shows contempt prior to investigation. It shows 'my mind is made up, don't bother me with facts'. It shows an agenda that is opposed to open, intelligent discussion of all the evidence.
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Im sure there were LOTS of people that questioned Noah's story too. Yes of course that must make them right...you can find a LOT of people today that say there are space aliens, Islam is true, the virgin Mary appeared to them and on and on...
Give me facts, not stories..where is the video?
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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12-04-2015, 12:38 PM
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Re: Another 9-11 conspiracy nut?
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Im sure there were LOTS of people that questioned Noah's story too. Yes of course that must make them right...you can find a LOT of people today that say there are space aliens, Islam is true, the virgin Mary appeared to them and on and on...
Give me facts, not stories..where is the video?
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See, the one fact you overlook is that Noah was not a known lying thieving political whore scumbag.
Regarding space aliens, Islam being true, and the Virgin Mary's appearances, I agree with you, a government claiming something as ridiculous as space aliens saying Islam is true because they heard it from the Virgin Mary ought to be disregarded as nonsense.
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12-04-2015, 02:46 PM
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Re: Another 9-11 conspiracy nut?
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12-29-2015, 05:55 PM
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Re: Another 9-11 conspiracy nut?
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Im sure there were LOTS of people that questioned Noah's story too. Yes of course that must make them right...you can find a LOT of people today that say there are space aliens, Islam is true, the virgin Mary appeared to them and on and on...
Give me facts, not stories..where is the video?
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12-29-2015, 06:02 PM
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Re: Another 9-11 conspiracy nut?
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Im sure there were LOTS of people that questioned Noah's story too. Yes of course that must make them right...you can find a LOT of people today that say there are space aliens, Islam is true, the virgin Mary appeared to them and on and on...
Give me facts, not stories..where is the video?
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This is called a red herring. Whether lots of people questioned Noah's story, or whether lots of people believe in the Islamic Virgin Mary from Outer Space, is irrelevant to the fact that lots of credible persons question the Official Conspiracy Theory put forward by the government. When even members of the 9-11 Commission afterwards declare it was essentially a whitewash, then it becomes obvious who actually has been stocking up on tin foil - the people who believe Official Fairy Tales and don't actually bother looking at real evidence, asking real questions, and coming to real conclusions.
After all, if Popular Mechanics says the government told us the truth, who are former members of the government to tell us it ain't so?
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12-29-2015, 06:46 PM
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Re: Another 9-11 conspiracy nut?
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Originally Posted by Esaias
This is called a red herring. Whether lots of people questioned Noah's story, or whether lots of people believe in the Islamic Virgin Mary from Outer Space, is irrelevant to the fact that lots of credible persons question the Official Conspiracy Theory put forward by the government. When even members of the 9-11 Commission afterwards declare it was essentially a whitewash, then it becomes obvious who actually has been stocking up on tin foil - the people who believe Official Fairy Tales and don't actually bother looking at real evidence, asking real questions, and coming to real conclusions.
After all, if Popular Mechanics says the government told us the truth, who are former members of the government to tell us it ain't so?

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Two planes with full tanks of gas hit two skyscrapers in Manhattan both buildings (+ 1) fell down. Also one of the passports of the hijackers fell at the feet of NYPD officer. It is a done issue.
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12-30-2015, 03:25 AM
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Re: Another 9-11 conspiracy nut?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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