Are we to repent for our ancestors past sins?

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by n david

I know what you were referring to, and you completely twisted it. You can't take a couple words out of a sentence and claim I was saying something that I was not saying. Obviously you can, but it's a flat out lie.

Again, we don't have a Levitical priest system, nor do we have a human High Priest who offers an annual sacrifice for our sins.

Use the whole sentence, don't just take a couple words from it and lie about what I said.

Good point. We don't have a Levitical priesthood. But we are a royal priesthood. And a priesthood intercedes for the people. The ministry of reconciliation towards both God, and one's fellow man.

And, we do have a human High Priest. It's just that man is also... God. Am I wrong?

For the record, I don't believe I ever insinuated that we have a Levitical priesthood. hmmmm...

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Why do we increasingly sound more like Rush Limbaugh than Jesus?

Who the gehenna is this “we?”

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by berkeley

Who the gehenna is this “we?”

Apostolics. Aren't you Apostolic?

[berkeley]

I don’t know anyone that sounds like Rush. Anyway, I’m not big on herring, red, or whatever color.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Then why oppose legal abortion? Wasn't that a sin of the past generation, producing a wrong many believe prohibition would make right? Even Christians who do not oppose "legal abortion" support measures to help women in unplanned pregnancies and provide more options to choose life, thereby reducing the abortion rate.

What are you talking about? Have abortions ceased? I didn't realize abortions have altogether ceased or that politicians and others aren't currently trying to protect abortions.

Originally Posted by Aquila

Heaven is a rather dynamic place, it isn't a communist eternity wherein we're all equal before Christ for eternity. There will be various measures of blessing and reward in the New Earth based on one's Christian walk. To be implicated in the sins of our ancestors will bring shame and loss of reward, not damnation. For it wasn't originally our sin.

Any scripture for this, or you just pulling stuff out of your back pocket?

Originally Posted by Aquila

Do you believe that a Christian should oppose discrimination? Most do. For a Christian to not oppose discrimination would be to be acquiescing to the sin of racial of injustice. And thereby, such a Christian would be implicated in the sin. You're supposing such a Christian would be condemned to Hell. I'm saying they will face shame before our Lord and loss of reward, yet they will be saved, yet so as by fire.

"Sin of racial injustice?" What Bible are you getting this from?

Originally Posted by Aquila

So, in my position, it isn't a contradiction. It is only a contradiction if I held your understanding. That's why it appears as being a contradiction... to you.

A bit condescending, but par for the course with you. As with most posts, yours is always the correct view. Everyone else is an idiot and just can't understand your multifaceted, brilliant mind.

Originally Posted by Aquila

Failing to right wrong perpetuated by the sin of our ancestors may not cause one the loss of their salvation, but not acting to right the wrongs of our ancestor's sin could bring shame and loss of reward in eternity.

Chapter and verse.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Good point. We don't have a Levitical priesthood. But we are a royal priesthood. And a priesthood intercedes for the people. The ministry of reconciliation towards both God, and one's fellow man.

Apples and Kimchi, Aquila.

Originally Posted by Aquila

And, we do have a human High Priest. It's just that man is also... God. Am I wrong?

Does this High Priest offer ANNUAL sacrifices for our sins? Or was there ONE sacrifice made which paid for all sins forever. So when I repented of my sins and was baptized years ago, that settled it. I didn't need to petition God for dead ancestors. I didn't need to answer for whatever sins my parents may have committed during their life. Or my cousins, aunts, uncles, grandparents, etc.

Originally Posted by Aquila

For the record, I don't believe I ever insinuated that we have a Levitical priesthood. hmmmm...

Did I say you did? Please reference the post where I did this.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by n david

What are you talking about? Have abortions ceased? I didn't realize abortions have altogether ceased or that politicians and others aren't currently trying to protect abortions.

The point is, abortion is only legal because a previous generation fought all the way to the SCOTUS, and won their case. Shouldn't we work to right that wrong?

Any scripture for this, or you just pulling stuff out of your back pocket?

Study the Judgment of the Nations.

"Sin of racial injustice?" What Bible are you getting this from?

Racism is a sin. The Scriptures teach that we are not to show favoritism, that there is no more Jew nor Greek in Christ, and that we are to love our neighbor as ourselves. Racism violates all these NT teachings. "Racial injustice" is institutionalized racism.

A bit condescending, but par for the course with you. As with most posts, yours is always the correct view. Everyone else is an idiot and just can't understand your multifaceted, brilliant mind.

First, why would anyone post a view that they felt was incorrect?
Second, I don't think anyone here is an "idiot". In fact, if I did, I'd not post here. I value your opinions, thoughts, and study.
Thirdly, I wasn't meaning to be condescending. I was only logically explaining why you saw a contradiction where I did not.

Chapter and verse.

Does one really need chapter and verse to support righting a wrong that originates from the sin of our ancestors? We've talked about a few examples quite a bit.

[Aquila]

I'm starting to think that some would like to see certain wrongs in our society that are the result of the sin of our ancestors continue.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by n david

Apples and Kimchi, Aquila.

So, you don't believe in interceding for the lost?

Does this High Priest offer ANNUAL sacrifices for our sins? Or was there ONE sacrifice made which paid for all sins forever. So when I repented of my sins and was baptized years ago, that settled it. I didn't need to petition God for dead ancestors. I didn't need to answer for whatever sins my parents may have committed during their life. Or my cousins, aunts, uncles, grandparents, etc.

No one said that anyone is to petition God for dead ancestors.

Repenting of ancestral sin means - not continuing in it yourself (typically resolved upon being born again, but can be done afterwards if one discovers that what they are continuing in is sin) and working to end the effects of our ancestor's sin in the present.

That is all I can see anyone saying.

Can you quote were anyone said we are to petition God for dead ancestors?

Did I say you did? Please reference the post where I did this.

When I mentioned the act of interceding for our communities, and the leaders of our nation, by confessing the continued sin of our ancestors, and righting their wrongs as a part of our priestly duties as a royal priesthood... you brought up how we no longer have a Levitical Priesthood to counter the notion, did you not?

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by Aquila

I'm starting to think that some would like to see certain wrongs in our society that are the result of the sin of our ancestors continue.

Cut the ......... No one is falling for your bull.