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09-23-2025, 09:04 PM
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Re: John MacArthur Didn't like to speak in tongues
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Rebecca worked closely with Ron and did those amazing videos with his sons and is quite well informed.
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What's her expertease?
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Please pay attention.
I never claimed to be able to prove ANYTHING to someone like you.
You like your "liar" rants, and do not really go beyond that.
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Someone like me?
Excuse me, but you are the one defending an individual who said Angels helped him with the Ark of the Covenant's 900 pound Mercy Seat.
You are the one defending an individual who says that the tablets of Moses will be revealed at the time the Ellen G White Sunday Law is enforced.
What is the reason why your whole Ron Wyatt is truthful based on faith alone?
Because there is not one shred of proof for this hokum.
Steven, I would really love for you to prove all this Ron Wyatt Angels under Golgotha story.
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09-23-2025, 09:10 PM
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Re: John MacArthur Didn't like to speak in tongues
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The Sudarium of Oviedo.
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Dates to 700 A.D.
Another Medieval relic.
But, the shroud was not one whole piece of cloth, but plural windings. The face was left open, and the face cloth was placed over the head. Your shroud has a face on it? Correct? Steven, we have Moses and the Prophets hear them.
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09-23-2025, 09:13 PM
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Re: John MacArthur Didn't like to speak in tongues
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Yes, Jeremiah J. Johnston has some good stuff.
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Made his way into the mountains, Bettin' on forgettin' all the troubles that he knew?
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09-23-2025, 09:13 PM
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Re: John MacArthur Didn't like to speak in tongues
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How much of the video with his sons did you watch?
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You called the two sons liars.
So how closely did you listen to the videos?
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09-23-2025, 09:18 PM
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Re: John MacArthur Didn't like to speak in tongues
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Yes, Jeremiah J. Johnston has some good stuff.
His twitter account points to various studies, an example..
Jeremiah J. Johnston, PhD reposted
https://x.com/ErickStakelbeck/status...95741151666584
And we have this:
WHO IS THE MAN IN THE SHROUD?
A Traveling Exhibit on The Shroud of Turin and Jesus’s resurrection
https://christianthinkers.com/pages/...-of-the-shroud
Remember, though, that our skeptics will insist that you, or any presenter, prove authenticity, to their satisfaction. Otherwise they will simply whine  . Clearly, they are not interested in searching for truth, everything is a child's petulant challenge game.
And I saw an excellent presentation once by Russ Breault at an Orland Christian conference, with prophecy types there. I had been sympathetic to Shroud authenticity, his presentation made it that much more definite. |
Steve, why if we don't accept the narrative for religious relics are we the bad guys? The shroud doesn't past the scripture test. That would be the bullet to the bone for most Christians. But, like the Ron Wyatt conversations, you are making a case, that we need to stick our fingers into the wounds of Christ. Or else Christianity isn't the truth. Ron Wyatt was a Seventh Day Adventist drier than toast in a mummy's pocket. Dead dry religion needs idolatry to kick start it, or they can't believe.
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Re: John MacArthur Didn't like to speak in tongues
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You called the two sons liars.
So how closely did you listen to the videos?
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Steve, why don't you point to the time stamps in the video which will show me that they are truth tellers?
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09-23-2025, 09:22 PM
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Re: John MacArthur Didn't like to speak in tongues
Steve, do you believe the prophecy that Ron Wyatt told?
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09-23-2025, 09:32 PM
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Re: John MacArthur Didn't like to speak in tongues
There have been many relics claiming to be or contain the Holy Blood, that is, the blood of Christ.
The following churches claim or claimed to have such a relic:
Basilica of the Holy Blood, Bruges[1]
Basilica di Sant'Andrea di Mantova, Mantua
Fécamp Abbey[2]
Reichenau Abbey – see Translatio sanguinis Domini
Sainte-Chapelle, Paris
St. James's Church, Rothenburg ob der Tauber
Weingarten Abbey
The following relics contain what is claimed to be the blood of Christ:
Sudarium of Oviedo
Shroud of Turin
Westminster blood relic
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relic_of_the_Holy_Blood
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09-23-2025, 09:41 PM
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Re: John MacArthur Didn't like to speak in tongues
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Steve, why don't you point to the time stamps in the video which will show me that they are truth tellers?
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You made the liar claim.
Again, how much of the video of the sons, whom you accused, have you watched?
In a round number.
If you can’t be honest here, it is quite telling.
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09-23-2025, 09:45 PM
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Re: John MacArthur Didn't like to speak in tongues
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You made the liar claim.
Again, how much of the video have you watched?
In a round number.
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Looks like I've watched more than you. Because you can't point me to the glowing evidence I needed to pay attention to? You ever notice how the boys can't make eye contact? In any of their interviews? Do you know what's that about?
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