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07-23-2007, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
The movement is now picking up steam!!!!
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ANGELS WATCHING OVER ME - Kingdom KidsSeries Book #1; For ages 5-9 years old
Do you have "Angels Watching Over You"?
Another morning of getting ready for school becomes very exciting as Miriam learns many wonderful things about being a King's Kid. She discovers how the armor of God and her uncut hair protects her every day. Find out how special every boy and girl is when they are one of God's kids.
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I was on the UPCI.org and I noticed that they had a photo contest going. I decided to browse a few of the submitted photo and I was shocked to find this among them. Is this a "new religion"?
This picture was taken at the Alabamas Ladies retreat. Sis Patty Twyman took down her hair to summon the power of the angels over the prayer requests. Many prayers were answered.
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Those are the words of Juli Jasinski; a popular writer within our movement. They are lifted from page five of her book My Hair, My Glory under the Heading “Spiritual Findings in Pagan Significance".
Juli provides forty references scattered across seven pages of the book detailing the spiritual emphasis pagan religions place on the power of uncut hair. Here is an abridged sampling.
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Jasinski goes on to say that “These are only forty of the many examples that show that hair holds great significance in the world of spiritualism, occultism, and paganism. I was surprised that almost all of these pagan references refer to Bible verses including the story of Samson and the verses in 1 Corinthians 11 concerning hair. This leads me to believe that the devil knows exactly what God intended for the woman and her hair. The devil, however, wanted to use it for his evil purposes but God wanted it to be used for our good.”
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Sincerity doesn't make it truth.
Blessings, Rhoni
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07-23-2007, 02:12 PM
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Do you have "Angels Watching Over You"?
Another morning of getting ready for school becomes very exciting as Miriam learns many wonderful things about being a King's Kid. She discovers how the armor of God and her uncut hair protects her every day. Find out how special every boy and girl is when they are one of God's kids.
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My goodness. I don't like that.
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07-23-2007, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by CC1
Coonskinner,
We have all agreed to leave RR's personal life out of these discussions and I agree with the infraction given the poster who made personal statements regarding that.
However I believe the difference here, and why if I were king her personal life would be fair game in discussion, is that she has taught at the very least by strong inference that a womans long uncut hair keeps the sort of sin that destroyed her family from happening.
Not to mention the reoccurring theme I have seen in my life in Pentecost that people in ministry who travel a lot alone are the ones who end up with marital problems. Keeping the homefires burning might be a new good topic for some women's conferences and popular women's conference speakers.
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That's the ugly truth that the majority in the UPC, and other denominations for that matter, don't want exposed.
I've known of quite a few ministers, all UPC because it's what I grew up in, who were away from home too much and either the husband or wife found a playmate to get satisfaction from because they weren't finding it in the wayward, traveling spouse. That, or the traveling spouse found satisfaction on the road.
It's not a knock on RR . . . but all these people who travel alone for extended periods of time do seem to have marital problems.
As for the children's books . . . Hitler and others like him would be proud of this kind of indoctrination.
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07-23-2007, 04:01 PM
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On another forum I made a comparison (in frustration I will admit) to the use of a Ouji board being no different then some of these women using their hair. I see NO difference, yet true to dialectic thinking, the "greater truth" of uncut hair is worth it even if it requires a bit of occultic practice to keep the sheep in line.
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07-23-2007, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by chaotic_resolve
That's the ugly truth that the majority in the UPC, and other denominations for that matter, don't want exposed.
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Blanket statements tend to detract from your credibility.
I do agree that there ought to be some teaching on couples making time for one another and perhaps traveling together whenever possible...BUT...being apart is NOT an excuse for infidelity. My husband is currently working in Arkansas, so he is gone Sunday - Thursday, and home for a 3-day weekend. Lots of couples are apart on a regular basis...military families, businessmen who need to travel a lot...etc etc...
If there is any "ugly truth" that needs to be exposed, it would be that some folks lack morals, and don't know how to keep their pants zipped and/or their skirts down when their spouse isn't looking. I don't think it has anything to do with ministers being gone too much. Chances are the same problems would exist even if they were together, if there is so little commitment that time apart leads to adultery. The only connection would be if there is al ready a problem, then time apart may make it worse, or give opportunity for things that were already desired.
My 2 cents.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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07-23-2007, 04:18 PM
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As for RR's children's books...I truly dislike them. I dislike the inferences and the implications and the reasons given for why her girls should or shouldn't do certain things. I dislike [what I view as] the dishonesty. It seems to me that good enough reasons couldn't be gleaned directly from scripture, so fables were concocted instead, e.g., Aesop's. It doesn't fly.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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07-23-2007, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by CC1
Not to mention the reoccurring theme I have seen in my life in Pentecost that people in ministry who travel a lot alone are the ones who end up with marital problems. Keeping the homefires burning might be a new good topic for some women's conferences and popular women's conference speakers.
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Is this a recurring theme you see in Pentecost? Or a recurring theme in any home? Too much time apart shines a bright light on existing problems, but if there's a good relationship and good commitment, the family WILL survive intact.
Keeping the "home fires burning" is just as much a men's conference topic as it is for women's conference.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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07-23-2007, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
Is this a recurring theme you see in Pentecost? Or a recurring theme in any home? Too much time apart shines a bright light on existing problems, but if there's a good relationship and good commitment, the family WILL survive intact.
Keeping the "home fires burning" is just as much a men's conference topic as it is for women's conference.
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Amen, Abigail! Preach that!
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07-23-2007, 04:26 PM
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Blanket statements tend to detract from your credibility.
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Perhaps, "majority" was a bad word. I should have stated that those in HQ don't want this exposed, nor would most district Boards, etc.
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
If there is any "ugly truth" that needs to be exposed, it would be that some folks lack morals, and don't know how to keep their pants zipped and/or their skirts down when their spouse isn't looking. I don't think it has anything to do with ministers being gone too much. Chances are the same problems would exist even if they were together, if there is so little commitment that time apart leads to adultery. The only connection would be if there is already a problem, then time apart may make it worse, or give opportunity for things that were already desired.
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I think I should give you some change back . . .
You don't think it has anything to do with ministers being gone too much? Seriously? That one can't be in a committed relationship, but find him/herself out on the road too much and open themselves to a tragic and sinful choice?
I'd have to disagree with the bolded statements.
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07-23-2007, 04:44 PM
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Y'all go Annie Oakley, aka MB, all riled up .. and now she's unloading the six shooter.
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