It's Either You or Me

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by BoJangles

It's not killing it's defending yourself-

The scripture you are quoting is meditated anger, and NOT someone breaking in your house.

If you take a life, it is killing.


Ex 20:13 Thou shalt not kill.


The Hebrew word for Kill is:


KILL

ratsach (rä·tsakh')

1) to murder, slay, kill

a) (Qal) to murder, slay

1) premeditated

2) accidental

3) as avenger

4) slayer (intentional) (participle)

b) (Niphal) to be slain

c) (Piel)

1) to murder, assassinate

2) murderer, assassin (participle)(subst)

d) (Pual) to be killed

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by BoJangles

Paul is referring to legal authority.

So if the saint didn't line up with the preacher, he got chopped???

[Old Paths]

Originally Posted by BoJangles

Is this what you think Paul meant?

Originally Posted by BoJangles

Paul is referring to legal authority.

You answered your on question.

The Nazi were the "legal authority".

[BoJangles]

Wow if God is such a pacifist why did he say this?

He says that He kills in Deuteronomy 32:39: "See now that I, even I, am he,
and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that
can deliver out of my hand."

I guess he became a pacifist after Calvary.

[Old Paths]

Originally Posted by Ron

OP, Scripture is only lawful to back up an argument----on thier side!

Hey Bro. Ron, you noticed that did ya.

It's called wresting the scripture.

Killing is no longer wrong, if your defending your ______________.

2 Peter 3:16

16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.KJV

[Old Paths]

Originally Posted by BoJangles

Wow if God is such a pacifist why did he say this?

He says that He kills in Deuteronomy 32:39: "See now that I, even I, am he,
and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that
can deliver out of my hand."

I guess he became a pacifist after Calvary.

Does your Bible have a New Testament?

Did you get your salvation from Moses and the Law?

[BoJangles]

Originally Posted by Old Paths

You answered your on question.

The Nazi were the "legal authority".

During the time of Pauls writing the church had to submit to Nero.

So I guess you know better than Paul.

[Old Paths]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

Are you just playing here???? The sword is the Word of the Lord, or as we call it, the bible.

Naw, Brother, it's the "legal authority".

In Cuba, that's Uncle Fidel.

[Old Paths]

Originally Posted by BoJangles

During the time of Pauls writing the church had to submit to Nero.

And your point is?????

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by BoJangles

Wow if God is such a pacifist why did he say this?

He says that He kills in Deuteronomy 32:39: "See now that I, even I, am he,
and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that
can deliver out of my hand."

I guess he became a pacifist after Calvary.

If you look at the Hebrew word for kill here, it implies that the death is a penalty or due to being judged. But also remember that:


Rom 12:19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but [rather] give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance [is] mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.