Baron, clearly we are in pretty different places as it relates to the spectrium of "conservitive/liberal" Oneness Apostolic. but I get what you are saying here.
My dad called yesterday and asked me where the scripture was that said not to tattoo.
I gave him the passage, but also told him he needed to be careful if he was going to stand on that particular scripture all by itself to tell someone it was wrong to get a tattoo.
I then read the verse directly above it. that passage says not to trim your beard!
EVERYTHING we take from the OT had best have a firm foundation in the NT, otherwise we will be responsible for the ENTIRE law. (Paul said that not me).
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Not affirming, establishing the New. Just because there are similar teachings in both doesn't make the Law of the Old Covenant something we follow.
Rico have you ever wrote a contract? Almost every contract dealing with the same general topic has items that are the same, but I can’t take a contract with Pepsi and enforce it against Coke. I have to apply the contract with Coke, and it may have some identical clauses but it is not the Pepsi contract.
If you enter into a new contract with Pepsi, saying you will credit them everything the old contract promised them, does that then mean the old contract is completely useless and of no value, especially if the new contract constantly refers back to the old contract?
I would like to know exactly what you are referring to with John and Paul. That is all the Scripture they had, and they were making application to the New Covenant but I don't see where they commanded us to keep the law.
Sex with anyone (or anything) other than your spouse is a sin. That would be New Covenant.
1Timothy 5:18 - For the Scripture says,"You shall not muzzle an ox when it treads out the grain," and, "The laborer deserves his wages.",
2 Cor. 6:14- Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness?
Romans 10:6-8 - But the righteousness based on faith says, "Do not say in your heart, 'Who will ascend into heaven?'" (that is, to bring Christ down) 7or "'Who will descend into the abyss?'" (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead). 8But what does it say? "The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart" (that is, the word of faith that we proclaim);
This is good for a start.
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Baron, clearly we are in pretty different places as it relates to the spectrium of "conservitive/liberal" Oneness Apostolic. but I get what you are saying here.
My dad called yesterday and asked me where the scripture was that said not to tattoo.
I gave him the passage, but also told him he needed to be careful if he was going to stand on that particular scripture all by itself to tell someone it was wrong to get a tattoo.
I then read the verse directly above it. that passage says not to trim your beard!
EVERYTHING we take from the OT had best have a firm foundation in the NT, otherwise we will be responsible for the ENTIRE law. (Paul said that not me).
I'm not so liberal, are you that conservative?
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"Beware lest you lose the substance by grasping at the shadow." ~Aesop
If you enter into a new contract with Pepsi, saying you will credit them everything the old contract promised them, does that then mean the old contract is completely useless and of no value, especially if the new contract constantly refers back to the old contract?
Very important post. This is one of hermanutic philosophy. Most assume a complete lack of continuity between the OT and the New. It appears that scripture assumes continuity unless the old provision is expressly changed or fulfilled by the New Covenant.
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1Timothy 5:18 - For the Scripture says,"You shall not muzzle an ox when it treads out the grain," and, "The laborer deserves his wages.",
2 Cor. 6:14- Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness?
Romans 10:6-8 - But the righteousness based on faith says, "Do not say in your heart, 'Who will ascend into heaven?'" (that is, to bring Christ down) 7or "'Who will descend into the abyss?'" (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead). 8But what does it say? "The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart" (that is, the word of faith that we proclaim);
This is good for a start.
Applications of the law. The teaching of the NC was being established by God using application from the old. Do you think anyone would get what Paul did about not muzzling the ox? He didn't say you are not to muzzle the ox he used to say something completely unrelated.
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"Beware lest you lose the substance by grasping at the shadow." ~Aesop
If you enter into a new contract with Pepsi, saying you will credit them everything the old contract promised them, does that then mean the old contract is completely useless and of no value, especially if the new contract constantly refers back to the old contract?
God said he would make a New Covenant, not credit us the Old. When you have a new contract the old one is void.
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"Beware lest you lose the substance by grasping at the shadow." ~Aesop
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