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09-05-2008, 11:09 AM
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Re: Sarah Palin, Todd Bentley, and Dominion Theolo
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Originally Posted by rgcraig
Huh? The people vote the leader in office. God doesn't DO everything.
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No, He doesn't. He doesn't force anyone to vote any certain way. Which is why a Christian better make sure, if they're going to vote, that they only vote for a candidate that is truly of God. Why? Because the Bible says that God puts whatever leader into office that He sees fit....
God alone put Pharaoh in power…
Exodus 9:16
(16) And in very deed for this cause have I RAISED THEE UP, for to shew in thee my power; and that my name may be declared throughout all the earth.
God alone put Nebuchadnezzar in power…
Jeremiah 27:5-6
(5) I have made the earth, the man and the beast that are upon the ground, by my great power and by my outstretched arm, and have GIVEN IT UNTO WHOM IT SEEMED MEET UNTO ME.
(6) And now have I given all these lands into the hand of Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon, MY SERVANT; and the beasts of the field have I given him also to serve him.
This is what Paul said…
Colossians 1:16-17
(16) For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him.
(17) And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist.
Colossians 2:9-10
(9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
(10) And ye are complete in him, which is THE HEAD OF ALL PRINCIPALITY AND POWER:
Romans 13:1-3
(1) Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. FOR THERE IS NO POWER BUT OF GOD: THE POWERS THAT BE ARE ORDAINED OF GOD.
(2) WHOSOEVER THEREFORE RESISTETH THE POWER, RESISTETH THE ORDINANCE OF GOD: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
(3) For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
1 Peter 2:13-17
(13) SUBMIT YOURSELVES TO EVERY ORDINANCE OF MAN FOR THE LORD'S SAKE: whether it be to the king, as supreme;
(14) Or unto governors, AS UNTO THEM THAT ARE SENT BY HIM for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well.
(15) FOR SO IS THE WILL OF GOD, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:
(16) As free, and not using your liberty for a cloke of maliciousness, but as the servants of God.
(17) Honour all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the king.
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09-05-2008, 11:11 AM
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Re: Sarah Palin, Todd Bentley, and Dominion Theolo
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
And pro-Moslem???????????????????????????????
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Brother, don't you love all people the same? Isn't that what Jesus said to do??
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The Bible is open to those that want Truth, and if they want Truth, they find Truth. They watch individuals squabble over Bible symbolism on the Internet, and leave the Message boards to enter into the real world where live people dwell, and they find Truth. The World Wide Web is full of Internet Ayatollahs who speak their mind. There is only one Truth, and it is not hidden. No matter what anyone says, Truth still converts the sincere.
-DD Benincasa, 12/06/03
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09-05-2008, 11:37 AM
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Re: Sarah Palin, Todd Bentley, and Dominion Theolo
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
Two quick questions V B... are you going to Jeff City tonight? And should I wear a "APOSTOLIC PALINITE" sign?
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Whats in Jeff City?
I went to O'fallon Sunday to the McCain Rally. 23,000 people was there. I was twenty feet in fron of the platform. I got sunburned really bad, I was there all day.
I got some good pics and will post them when I figure out how to do it.
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09-05-2008, 04:16 PM
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Re: Sarah Palin, Todd Bentley, and Dominion Theolo
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Originally Posted by vrblackwell
Whats in Jeff City?
I went to O'fallon Sunday to the McCain Rally. 23,000 people was there. I was twenty feet in fron of the platform. I got sunburned really bad, I was there all day.
I got some good pics and will post them when I figure out how to do it.
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Take a man's job and he loses touch!!   District Mens Conference is going on in Jeff.
Several of my in laws attended the O'Fallon rally.
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09-05-2008, 04:23 PM
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Re: Sarah Palin, Todd Bentley, and Dominion Theolo
Before I can even comment on this thread, I need to understand what "Dominion Theology" is. I know what the Dominion Mandate is, but what is "Dominion Theology?" Especially in reference to the context and intent of the first post....
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To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
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09-05-2008, 08:09 PM
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Re: Sarah Palin, Todd Bentley, and Dominion Theolo
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Originally Posted by Jeanie
Wasn't that for personal use?
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Chief of Staff, Donald T. Regan said that the Reagans made a considerable amount of use of Astrology in making policy decisions. It is popular knowledge that Nancy Reagan consulted an astrologer after Reagan's assassination attempt. Nancy Reagan did this to increase security. During the late 1940's the Reagan's used the services of a then famous Hollywood astrologer by the name of Carroll Righter.
Nancy Reagan often consulted astrologer Joan Quigley for advice. The Reagans had known Joan Quigley since the 1970s. Nancy sought the use Quigley's services
You can pick up a copy of "For the Record" by former White House Chief of Staff Donald Regan, he tells all about the Reagans use of astrologers to help plan the president's schedule. The astrologer Joan Quigley wrote her own book and speaks about her involvement in activities involving White House international relations.
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Yeah I seriously doubt anyone could get away with running the country by prophesy.
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Not so far fetched Sister, I would say presidents have been using witchcraft disguised as Christianity for years, to plan their agenda. Sarah Palin is just the same devil with a different dress.
I myself believe that both individuals running are messengers of Satan, be it Obama or McClain. Washington is swimming in blood and the blood stained hands of this country will bring upon itself the retribution of its Sins.
Pray church.
In JESUS NAME
Brother Benincasa
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09-05-2008, 09:30 PM
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Re: Sarah Palin, Todd Bentley, and Dominion Theolo
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Not so far fetched Sister, I would say presidents have been using witchcraft disguised as Christianity for years, to plan their agenda. Sarah Palin is just the same devil with a different dress.
I myself believe that both individuals running are messengers of Satan, be it Obama or McClain. Washington is swimming in blood and the blood stained hands of this country will bring upon itself the retribution of its Sins.
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This sounds Like an Apostolic Reverend Wright. Do you believe In the US at all? It is clear to people all over the world for the last 200 years that America is a land Blessed by God. Our acts of agression have not all been ordained of God, but many have. If it were not for us, THE US, then the world would not exist as we know it. Israel would not exist. Revivals the world over would have never happened. Give us a break with your pacifistic, superior opined, alarmist non-sense.
GOD, Family, Country
Patriotism will not die in my home or church. God Bless America
Land that "I" Love
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Forty years ago we (oneness pentecost) held ourselves at a "safe distance" from the world. Do we now embrace what was "worldliness" then? Are we simply trying to maintain a distance from popular society? Are we then guilty of " trickledown" immorality?
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09-05-2008, 10:15 PM
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Re: Sarah Palin, Todd Bentley, and Dominion Theolo
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Originally Posted by ManOfWord
In this instance, she's asking people to pray that the leaders and soldiers stay in God's will.
That is exactly what I got out of it. God forbid that we would have someone in the White House that would actually listen to the voice of God and believe that God speaks to us today through words of prophecy etc. There is enough wackiness in pentecostal circles to go around, but Sarah Palin does not seem to fit into that category. Is she pentecostal, yes! Is she just like "us" whoever "us" is.....probably not. But I would take 1/2 of her over 1000 Obamas any day. She has the principles we hold dear in her heart and her life is proof.
Whatever the Lord does with her, she will be making a MUCH larger difference than all the whiners combined on this forum who cry and moan that we're not conservative enough. HOGWASH! Thank God for people like Sarah Palin who will ask God to use them any way He sees fit! 
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Well said, MOW!
Sorry, Bro. Burk you are reading many things into what you are reading and hearing, she did not say the Iraq war was God's war. She was saying that God has a plan in this world and that we should pray for it. BTW, the Iraq war is a part of what God is doing in the world, but He has a different view of it than most of us.
The Master's Commission is a study program that many church have to train young folks into Christian ministry, it is not what you alluded to. Kenneth Phillips church has this type of training.
You sound like you are leaning into the conspiracy crowd's thinking.
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09-05-2008, 10:25 PM
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Re: Sarah Palin, Todd Bentley, and Dominion Theolo
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Originally Posted by trickledown
This sounds Like an Apostolic Reverend Wright. Do you believe In the US at all?
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I believe in Jesus Christ, sorry no Yankee Doodle Dandy with head in the sand here.
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Originally Posted by trickledown
It is clear to people all over the world for the last 200 years that America is a land Blessed by God.
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Sorry Uncle Sam, but I live on the border of Wilton Manor Florida where they have stores with the names like Gay Mart, Queer Nation, Pride Factory, and Java Boys. The Church of Jesus Christ is blessed, and this country reaps the benefit of having the Church of Jesus Christ praising Jesus on its soil. Just don't you think for a minute that you are going to peddle that sorry foolishness to me that our country is blessed because it's Christian.
This country is Christless, and the garbage that spews out of the mouth of its media proves it.
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Originally Posted by trickledown
Our acts of agression have not all been ordained of God, but many have.
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What are you Roman Catholic? News Flash! Christianity is a passive religion!
We as Christian don't use weapons to settle our disputes. Slap the right cheek and then stab and slab? The Church of Jesus Christ NEVER uses deadly force, NEVER.
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Originally Posted by trickledown
If it were not for us, THE US, then the world would not exist as we know it.
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Sweet love of God! My lands are you kidding me, people like you actually exist. President Eisenhower didn't agree with you, and in fact he warned the nation against allowing your kind of mentality to push us towards building a military-industrial complex.
A military-industrial complex that would constantly have us looking to police the world.
If you happen to get the chance to free your mind and research what I'm trying to say to you, you will find that America parallels the Roman Empire.
It parallels the Roman Empire in a way that America is looking to control and occupy. Yet when a country builds empire it has to maintain that empire. It does that only one way...force....deadly force.
What are we fighting for? Freedom?
We are free, and we don't need to police the world, or go looking for a fight.
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Originally Posted by trickledown
Israel would not exist.
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Wait a minute, don't you believe that God keeps Israel around?
It would be more honest that you say because of American money Israel exists.
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Originally Posted by trickledown
Revivals the world over would have never happened.
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You talk to me about Holy Ghost revival out of one side of your mouth, while you tell me to give you a break with my pacifistic non-sense?
obviously you are a child, and have no idea what you are saying.
Anyone who likes to spill blood has no part in the Kingdom of God.
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Originally Posted by trickledown
Give us a break with your pacifistic, superior opined, alarmist non-sense.
GOD, Family, Country
Patriotism will not die in my home or church. God Bless America
Land that "I" Love
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When you grow up then come back and we will try this again. Kids spouting off via the Internet is a drag. If I'm incorrect and your an adult, then i rest my case, because this country is overrun with foolishness, and it will reap what it has sowed.
Pray Church, violence is NEVER the answer.
In JESUS NAME
Brother Benincasa
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09-05-2008, 11:16 PM
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Re: Sarah Palin, Todd Bentley, and Dominion Theolo
Pacifest should research what turning the other cheek really means in the greek as applied to the time of the early church. Like I said, you sound like an Apostolic Reverend Wright. America hasn't been an Empire Builder for over 150 years. What late night am radio whackos do you get your ideas from? Or do you simply take the best lines from the Michael Moore leftist blogosphere and use them with your righteous indignation. My head isn't in the sand. Just as I have attended Pentecostal churches with many perverts and sinners over the years, so do I live in a country that is corrupt and has a percentage of the populace that is in opposition to God, however both those churches AND this country have still been agents for God's work in this world. US soldiers fighting Nazi Germany saved the Jews and the world. US political influence provided a nation for them. US nukes have kept them since. Our money would be no better than welfare for them without our might to back them up.
Again study the intent of "turning the other cheek" before somebody comes after you or your family. I don't take bloodshed lightly but pacifism is not a Bible Doctrine but a man made perversion just as surely as triune God is.
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Forty years ago we (oneness pentecost) held ourselves at a "safe distance" from the world. Do we now embrace what was "worldliness" then? Are we simply trying to maintain a distance from popular society? Are we then guilty of " trickledown" immorality?
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