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Old 11-07-2008, 10:01 PM
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Re: Arizona Boy, 8, Accused of Killing 2

When I was 8, I was a messed up child. I had a horrible babysitter who lived with us and abused us horribly. At one time, I planned on killing her by stabbing her with knives my mom had in a special knife drawer. I also had my brother and two cousins who lived with us in on it. We went through the scenario on several occasions.

A short time later, she left and never came back. I have no doubt that I would have killed her had she stayed with us much longer.

Oh, and I didn't have a TV influencing me. I was tired of the abuse I suffered from her. Horrible things.
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Old 11-07-2008, 10:05 PM
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Re: Arizona Boy, 8, Accused of Killing 2

H1 that is a terrible thing to deal with. I am glad you never had to find out if you would go through with it or not. I imagine that this poor boy was dealing with something similar.
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Old 11-07-2008, 10:12 PM
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When I was 8, I was a messed up child. I had a horrible babysitter who lived with us and abused us horribly. At one time, I planned on killing her by stabbing her with knives my mom had in a special knife drawer. I also had my brother and two cousins who lived with us in on it. We went through the scenario on several occasions.

A short time later, she left and never came back. I have no doubt that I would have killed her had she stayed with us much longer.

Oh, and I didn't have a TV influencing me. I was tired of the abuse I suffered from her. Horrible things.
I'm sorry to hear that, H1. I'm glad the abuser left.
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Old 11-08-2008, 07:47 AM
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Re: Arizona Boy, 8, Accused of Killing 2

I am horrified at what children are exposed to daily and the solution they sometimes find to deal with it. I pray there is another explanation, maybe they are not saying much because it's a minor. And I wonder where the mother is.
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What a sad story. I noticed it didn't mention the boy's mother or extended family....hmm. This story is lacking a lot of important details. I'll be interested to see what else comes out.

H1, Jeff told me that he and his brother used to conspire about ways to kill their Dad when they were young boys. It's a wonder they didn't become the Menendez brothers. They didn't have tv or video games, either. I know the first thing I thought of when I read the article was, "What were those men doing to that boy?" It may be something altogether different, but that's the first leap my mind makes.
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I am horrified at what children are exposed to daily and the solution they sometimes find to deal with it. I pray there is another explanation, maybe they are not saying much because it's a minor. And I wonder where the mother is.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5i...qNNTAD94AQRNG0

At the end of this article it tells that the father has custody and the mother lives in Mississippi. She returned to Arizona after the shootings though.
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Old 11-08-2008, 10:23 AM
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At the end of this article it tells that the father has custody and the mother lives in Mississippi. She returned to Arizona after the shootings though.
So the mother who does not have custody, had visited over the weekend. Then the dad and his boarder were killed by the child. Hmmmm, maybe the mom had something to do with it, or something happened between the mom and dad, and possibly the other guy. Who knows, but I think there is a lot more to the story.

P. S. And I imagine the "confession" might not stand up in court, as he had no counsel. I do wonder if they video taped it though, even in a small town they should have the means to do so.
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Re: Arizona Boy, 8, Accused of Killing 2

Heavenly One and Miss Brattified have established the fact young children can premeditate such a crime but they have also established the fact the children felt it was their only way out of a terrible situation. I believe this story has much more to it than we know. Hopefully, if the child was suffering abuse, he will be released to his mother without repercussions. This child is going to need a lot of help and support.
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Heavenly One and Miss Brattified have established the fact young children can premeditate such a crime but they have also established the fact the children felt it was their only way out of a terrible situation. I believe this story has much more to it than we know. Hopefully, if the child was suffering abuse, he will be released to his mother without repercussions. This child is going to need a lot of help and support.
Yes, I agree that a child that age can certainly premeditate, however, I'm not sure that someone of that age has a full understanding and appreciation of the severity and finality of their actions. It seem to be a very sad story, and no matter what, that child is going to need a lot of prayer, support, and counseling.
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H1 that is a terrible thing to deal with. I am glad you never had to find out if you would go through with it or not. I imagine that this poor boy was dealing with something similar.
I vividly remember how I felt during that time in my life. There is no doubt in my mind that we would have carried it out had she stayed.
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