Re: Not Holy Spirit filled, Give Message in Tongue
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Originally Posted by Timmy
I wonder why Paul didn't just make it clear what he meant!
God doesnt make everything clear to everyone.
Matt 13:
11 He answered and said to them, “Because it has been given to you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given.
12 For whoever has, to him more will be given, and he will have abundance; but whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him.
13 Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand.
Of course, having the Holy Ghost goes a long way toward understanding the scriptures in the first place.
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Re: Not Holy Spirit filled, Give Message in Tongue
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Originally Posted by TRFrance
God doesnt make everything clear to everyone.
Matt 13:
11 He answered and said to them, “Because it has been given to you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given.
12 For whoever has, to him more will be given, and he will have abundance; but whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him.
13 Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand.
Yeah. I've noticed that. And ". . . lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them." If I don't "get it", God (apparently) doesn't want me to.
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Re: Not Holy Spirit filled, Give Message in Tongue
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Originally Posted by Timmy
Yeah. I've noticed that. And ". . . lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them." If I don't "get it", God (apparently) doesn't want me to.
Well, judging from what I've seen you say before on this forum, you dont even take the Bible to be the inspired word of God.
So how much can you expect God to reveal to you from his Word when you approach his Word with such skepticism to begin with?
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Daniel 12:3 And those who are wise shall shine like the brightness of the firmament; and those who turn many to righteousness, like the stars for ever.
Re: Not Holy Spirit filled, Give Message in Tongue
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Originally Posted by shag
Matt. 7:22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’(iniquity-kjv)
Is it possible to cast out demons in his name without knowing him? They tried it (using 'the name')in the bible and they got stripped naked, and sent on down the road.
TR, what think ye?
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Re: Not Holy Spirit filled, Give Message in Tongue
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Originally Posted by shag
TR, what think ye?
I don't believe it's possible.
A demon can choose to go out of a person if they want to, but I dont believe a non Spirit-filled person has any power over a demon, to cast it out.
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Re: Not Holy Spirit filled, Give Message in Tongue
I do notice it says "Jesus never knew them", nothing about "them not knowing Him". Interesting IMO.
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Re: Not Holy Spirit filled, Give Message in Tongue
49And John answered and said, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name; and we forbad him, because he followeth not with us.
50And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.
Don't know if maybe "because he followeth not with us" means the person did know Jesus or just simply was not a dicsiple.
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