Monopoly on Apostolic Identity is no more .... - Page 25

LUKE2447 · #**241** 02-03-2009, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquila

Bro, I don't mean to be insulting... but you've transfered a lot of the beliefs held by those who believe in Holy Magic Hair to the veil. It's "Holy Magic Covering" doctrine. It is what it is. In all humility I admit, I did this too when I embraced the teaching.

Seriously if you think that then you have issues and cannot read.

See your true color is coming out about your previous comments on baptism in Jesus name. I could even point to how you make baptism a charm or whatever my friend by your own argument!

I have never said it had magic power but was a sign of authority and acceptance of ones calling. You my friend are on dangerous ground for false accusation!

LUKE2447 · #**242** 02-03-2009, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*

If veiling was not just a cultural thing, but something GOD expected, then why is it not written as a command elsewhere in scripture? Why isn't it in the law of Moses? When God made Adam and Eve garments in the Garden of Eden, why didn't he make them both robes, and make Eve a veil? If it was required of a woman, wouldn't it have mentioned it right then?

So only if Adam and Eve did it...... Ever heard of progressive revelation of God's will and desire? No need to get baptized I guess.... what other stuff can we throw out?

Aquila · #**243** 02-03-2009, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by LUKE2447

I have never said it had magic power but was a sign of authority and acceptance of ones calling. You my friend are on dangerous ground for false accusation!

Bro, those who believe in Holy Magic Hair don't believe that the hair has magical powers per se, they believe that angels respond to women with uncut hair in response to prayer. You transfer that teaching to the veil. It's not a false accusation.

Aquila · #**244** 02-03-2009, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by LUKE2447

So only if Adam and Eve did it...... Ever heard of progressive revelation of God's will and desire? No need to get baptized I guess.... what other stuff can we throw out?

If we're basing this on Adam & Eve... we can throw out clothing.

Sorry, I just had to say that. hehehe

LUKE2447 · #**245** 02-03-2009, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquila

If we're basing this on Adam & Eve... we can throw out clothing.

Sorry, I just had to say that. hehehe

LOL!

LUKE2447 · #**246** 02-03-2009, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquila

Bro, those who believe in Holy Magic Hair don't believe that the hair has magical powers per se, they believe that angels respond to women with uncut hair in response to prayer. You transfer that teaching to the veil. It's not a false accusation.

brother deal with Paul not me! As I said before you are very dangerous in attacking baptism as well and if not communion.

Aquila · #**247** 02-03-2009, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by LUKE2447

brother deal with Paul not me! As I said before you are very dangerous in attacking baptism as well and if not communion.

Even the Holy Magic Hair crowd well tell others to deal with Paul, not them. Where's the accountibility. If you believe in it... stand up for it. It's Holy Magic Covering teaching. I think it's silly, but I don't have anything personal against you.

For the record, I never attacked baptism. I attacked baptizing people in vain as though it were a magical formula. The administrator clarified that several times.

LUKE2447 · #**248** 02-03-2009, 09:32 AM

You are basically changing the clear teaching of the text! Whatever man! God using symbolism is not wrong as he has done it all throughout history!

you don't have to attack it directly as your argument does attack it. You are basically saying anything God uses as the physical to parallel the spiritual is "holy magic ....." Brother you are on dangerous ground and should be careful if you are wrong. I do what I do in faithful response whether I am wrong or right. You on the other hand mock God's teaching as this is not the only thing he does this with. Passover/communion is another along with baptism.

Aquila · #**249** 02-03-2009, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by LUKE2447

You are basically changing the clear teaching of the text! Whatever man! God using symbolism is not wrong as he has done it all throughout history!

you don't have to attack it directly as your argument does attack it. You are basically saying anything God uses as the physical to parallel the spiritual is "holy magic ....." Brother you are on dangerous ground and should be careful if you are wrong. I do what I do in faithful response whether I am wrong or right. You on the other hand mock God's teaching as this is not the only thing he does this with. Passover/communion is another along with baptism.

Bro... I don't believe in any of the second covering or holy magic hair stuff. lol It doesn't scare me. You can believe it if you want to. I think they're cute, on some ladies, but beyond that it's just another misinterpretation of Scripture. I can respect that you believe it though.

*AQuietPlace* · #**250** 02-03-2009, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by LUKE2447

So only if Adam and Eve did it...... Ever heard of progressive revelation of God's will and desire? No need to get baptized I guess.... what other stuff can we throw out?

I'm still trying to figure out where mandated veiling was thrown *in*.