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Old 07-02-2010, 06:19 AM
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It appears that you don't read anything and certainly can't answer any of the questions to the scriptures, you just come up with some babel from your carnal nature.
Rev... I gave solid Scriptures you completely ignored by prooftexting your gobbly-gook. Those asleep in the dust shall awaken. End of subject.
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Old 07-02-2010, 06:24 AM
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So glad that you love "water worshipers"

You must really love Paul and Peter....

(Acts 2:38) Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

If you haven't been baptized in the name of Jesus you are still carrying your sins around.


(Acts 10:47) Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
(Acts 10:48) And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.
Sacramentalists will argue that baptism washes away one's sins. This is error. Water just leaves one wet. It's a natural element that doesn't affect the spirit. However, we read...
Acts 22:16 (King James Version)
16And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
In the early church the repentant believer called on the name of the Lord for salvation at the moment of water baptism. They didn't repeat a liturgy over the new convert. It was at that moment that sins were remitted. Not on account of the water...but on account of calling upon the name. This is why people can get the Holy Ghost (the Spirit of God) at the altar before water baptism. Sins are washed away when one calls on the name of the Lord. Baptism is a command to be obeyed. Failure to obey the command to baptize or be baptized is rebellion. Please note, you can have a thousand Apostolic preachers screaming "In the name of Jesus!" over a person being water baptized... but if that person isn't calling on the name of the Lord for themselves... the washing away of sins doesn't take place. It's an issue of relationship between the new believer and the Lord... not the liturgical words of a priest spoken at the time of baptism.
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Old 07-02-2010, 06:28 AM
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Can you agree with Paul and say your eschatological hope was the same as Pauls? otherwords is your ressurection hope the same as Pauls?

Act 24:14 But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:


Act 24:15 And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust.


Paul says here He believes all things that were written in the Law and the Prophets,Do you believe they predicted physical bodies coming out of the ground? If they did,then Paul most certainly would be teaching a body ressurection in 1 Cor 15.

Act 26:22 Having therefore obtained help of God, I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come:

Here we have it from Paul..He said the things He believed and taught were from what the Law and Prophets taught..All we got to do is go back and prove from the source Paul had [law and prophets] to see IF they predicted the physical ressurection most churches teach today..it is that simple. I can save you some time by telling you..no they did not..but don't take it from me,check it out for yourself.
It is written,
Job 19:26
And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God:

Daniel 12:2
And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
And there are many more from where that came from.
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Old 07-02-2010, 06:29 AM
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Let's end the cowardice. I want an ANSWER. Did Jesus Christ rise bodily from the dead? Yes or no?
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Let's end the cowardice. I want an ANSWER. Did Jesus Christ rise bodily from the dead? Yes or no?
I thought that would silence the false prophets.
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Old 07-02-2010, 12:52 PM
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I thought that would silence the false prophets.
Son I already told you that I could give you a complete bible study on this subject but that I would not do so.

Your knowledge of the subject is so incomplete that it would take forever to bring you up to just a basic knowledge.

So just keep patting yourself on the back because of your great intellect and then repent and get baptized in the Name of Jesus Christ.

But remember you must first really repent or the other is worthless.
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Son I already told you that I could give you a complete bible study on this subject but that I would not do so.

Your knowledge of the subject is so incomplete that it would take forever to bring you up to just a basic knowledge.

So just keep patting yourself on the back because of your great intellect and then repent and get baptized in the Name of Jesus Christ.

But remember you must first really repent or the other is worthless.
Do people sometimes just think they've repented, but didn't?
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Do people sometimes just think they've repented, but didn't?
(Mat 3:7) But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
(Mat 3:8) Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:


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(Mat 3:8) Therefore let your lives prove your change of heart;
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(Mat 3:7) But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
(Mat 3:8) Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:


(Weymouth translation)

(Mat 3:8) Therefore let your lives prove your change of heart;
Umm, is that a yes or a no?
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Son I already told you that I could give you a complete bible study on this subject but that I would not do so.

Your knowledge of the subject is so incomplete that it would take forever to bring you up to just a basic knowledge.
Try me... I'm well versed with your position.

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So just keep patting yourself on the back because of your great intellect and then repent and get baptized in the Name of Jesus Christ.
Truth has nothing to do with intellect. In actuality, the truth is so simple a seven year old can grasp it.

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But remember you must first really repent or the other is worthless.
Amen!

Let the readers note... you still didn't answer the question.

Did Jesus Christ rise bodily from the dead? Yes or no?
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