Tongues and Interpretation?

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Originally Posted by crakjak

You mistook my words: I did not suggest that you don't know God, nor do I think that you don't. Nor did I say that churches that have the gifts in operation are shallow, nor do I think that.

Don't blame me. I did not mistook anything, you mis-spoke. That is exactly what your posts implied. Maybe you did not think that was your intention but that is exactly what your posts imply

I said that to know God you must have both a emotional and an intellectual knowledge of Him.

that is NOT what you said. You said to ME that I will never know God. And besides I never once suggested we don't need an emotional anything with God. You always do that when this topic comes up,twist my words.

Jesus is the Word, therefore a good working knowledge of scripture is required, but a solid emotional response to scripture is also required to know God. The Word will "kill" the unbalanced scholar, just as we have recently seen in the "Rev" Camping, and we can see the emotionally imbalanced on TBN and the like quite regularly.

that has absolutely NOTHING to do with what I've been saying and what we've been discussing

As to the gifts, I was decrying the MISUSE of the gifts of T&I, I'm not sure you really disagree with these points?

No you were not!

Here is what you said, nothing about misuse

Much of the desire for T&I comes when the ministry is majoring in the minors, and not presenting deep spiritual and practical truths. The folks get restless and hungry for what God desires.

So churches that desire T&I do so because the ministry is shallow.

While Im on it, let me quote your other tidbits

"I believe this deep longing came because of a lack of deep expository preaching that satisfies the spiritually hunger of believer"

And then here is what you said to me, first of all implying that all I know is a scientific understanding of scriptures (not true) and that I don't know God

I can speak the truth form experience and understanding, without quoting scripture. If all you know is a scientific understanding of the scripture, you will never "know" God.

And while I take exception to your accusation that all I know is a scientific understanding of scriptures and that I don't know God, I have to disagree that you can speak the truth from experience and understanding without quoting scriptures. The bible is our foundation. Protestants left the Roman system years ago because the thought they could speak the truth apart from scriptures or have some knowledge externally from scriptures. If you are going to judge or declare a truth, it better be backed up by God, the God of the bible

You may have attacked my presentation because you love argumentation, I think???

Another personal accusation? CJ did I misread this too?