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Originally Posted by crakjak
"If all you know is a scientific understanding of the scripture, you will never "know" God."
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I already know God. The bible is a book, not a test tube. You read it and understand it. God gave you a brain, use it
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Knowing God most definitely includes the emotions and spirit of humans.
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Having a relationship but understanding God's word is not defined by one's whimful emotions. How do you think we got so many false doctrines going around? Everyone thinks they "feel" what is right.
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That is the exact point I was making. "...the letter kills, it is the spirit that makes alive..." It is not either or it is both!!!
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If you think for one second that means the word of God (letter) kills you are seriously deluded or you are simply mis-using the word of God for your own argument. I suppose you think it's ok to go out and hang yourself because Jesus said "go thou and do likewise"? The word of God must be handled honestly and intelligently or you will never "know" God..see how it works?
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I did not judge you, maybe you judged yourself? Based on the bolded, in your quotes above, who is judging who?
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You, you speculated that I did not know God. Before that you speculated/insinuated that churches that have the gifts in operation are shallow churches
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Of course it is my opinion, based on my knowledge and experience.
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You're experience is subjective. You presume a church that is more deeper teaching is somehow more spiritual, yet you just spent time actually trying to refute such a notion lol...I bet you won't even get that point
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You quote a lot of scripture, you readily apply YOUR opinions and YOUR understanding of what certain scriptures mean. This is a discussion, I will post scripture and my opinions as I choose, you can choose to engage my posts or not.
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I don't claim my views of doctrine is based on emotions. I don't claim the bible means whatever I "feel" it should mean. This IS a discussion and I HAVE been engaging what you've said, that's why we are here
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You would do well to engage the discussion, voicing your opinions and quoting scripture, but tone way down on the attack mode. We are friends here and should carry on as such. You have good opinions and understanding to share, but quite frankly you cause your audience to be very hesitate to receive some of your contributions.
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Well wait a second, you imply I don't know God and you are gonna point your finger at me? ROFL. I was just testing your words vs scriptures, you were the one that suggested I don't know God CJ
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This is my opinion and my observations, you may do with it what you will.
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I have been and will