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Originally Posted by Aquila
Semantics. You're assuming that just because they use a terminology you disagree with that there is something wrong with them. lol
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I must've missed where I said that. Please provide the quote.
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If a born again Christian who still struggles from same gender attraction wishes to call themselves a "gay Christian"... what right have you to tell them they can't and question their walk and motives? That's my point.
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Why would you think I'm questioning their walk and motives? Quotes, please.
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While you and I might disagree and feel that simply calling one's self a believer or a Christian is good enough... they don't. They've felt the pressure, the shame, the hate, the discrimination, the suspecion, the being called reprobate, and the list goes on and on. Like must unpopular groups who eventually want to be heard... they claim the identity and refuse to be ignored.
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Again with the assumptions! Where did I say I was ignoring them? You've created a big ol' Strawman here, my friend.
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So, I have no issue with the terminology. I don't hike my dress up like it's gross and twaddle away screaming and accusing. I'm just saying... listen to them. Take the time to hear them. Hear their pleas. Their concerns. Their struggles. Their temptations. Their fears. Even if they call themselves.... *gasp!* "gay Christians".
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And... once again you're assuming I'm coming from a position of not hearing them. How do you know I don't counsel with them every day? And yet I still choose to steer them- and every one else I might counsel- towards
biblical doctrine and
biblical labels. There is power in the Word of God, in the Name of God, and in the Spirit of God. What hurting people need is the good news of the Gospel, that Jesus Christ really does change lives, sometimes immediately and miraculously, and
always progressively and continually for the rest of their lives as they continue to walk in the Spirit. Every new day we walk in the Spirit is a day we walk away from our former self and a day closer to being conformed to the image of Jesus Christ- regardless of the struggles and temptations. "Christian" means one who is "Christ-like". That's the image we should identify with every day, not the image of our former self.
And that is why I advocate bearing the label- and only that label- of the one in whose image we are becoming conformed: Christian.