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Old 09-17-2013, 05:41 AM
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Re: Come Out Of Her My People

Talk about a straw man, this is one that needs to be set on fire. I made a list. In a list, you usually don't explain why each thing is there, that comes later. Which I did, explain.

My opening statement,
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Come Out Of Her My People

Let's face it. We are ruled in the churches by Pagan Christianity.
It was the Catholic Church that brought in the Trinity baptism.
The hierarchy of Clergy and Laity.
The paying of tithes.
Church buildings
And many other things.

And the only way that I see “to come out of her” is to start Home Churches by those that are completely dedicated to God
And now let's see how some received this, they jumped on buildings, as a strawman, most likely not wanting to face the fact, that the Church is dying. And some of the reasons for it, and Jesus say's “Come out of her” Meaning, come out of the things, practices, laws, rules, the RCC placed in the True Church, thru Constantine.

I went thru most of the Posts, and here is what I said about buildings in response to the ridicule. And also many times I was misrepresented.

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That is the Truth, exactly. Buildings mean nothing. We could meet in a Restaurant, a warehouse, a home, storefront, anywhere. That shouldn't be the point

And what the RCC has put into place has led to sin. It was sin in the first place, because, …
Constantine, for Political reasons, a Pagan until he died, took churches away from Pagan Priests and gave them, to the Christians. Which sounds great, but at what price? They had to compromise, agree to baptize in the Trinity.

It is a sin to compromise with False Doctrine

Constantine started the first United Religions. Combining Paganism, OT teachings and Christianity

I'm not really saying that we have to abandon buildings. I don't know what to say about that. But if they are set up as little Kingdoms with a King (man) as the ruler. Then I see no other way than to abandon the whole system. But any man in that position is not likely to do so.

However, persecution is on it's way. And just like Constantine, the churches will be asked to join the One World Religion, and if not, they will take the buildings away from you

TheRCC didn't start the Trinity. Almost every Pagan Religion has a Trinity of gods, a Mother (Queen of Heaven) Father and Son. But they authorized it into the Church, where if you baptized any other way, you had your property taken away, whether a church or a home. Many were jailed, and many martyred

I don't believe that I said that the Clergy was sin. "Which sounds great, but at what price? They had to compromise, agree to baptize in the Trinity. It is a sin to compromise with False Doctrine."
And the way that it is being used by the Clergy, is sin. As little Kings over little Kingdoms. Pride in THEIR CHUCH. Ran like a business. Some pastors are Dictators, I've had a few. A stage with performers, with spectators instead of participating. That's just a few.

The above statement needs some fixing. “To stop the martyring of Christians, He gave them buildings, or make it possible for them to have church buildings, tax exemption for the ministry, and many perks. That sounds great, but at what price?

No I did not, state that the RCC started these things.! I said, “ It was the Catholic Church that brought them in,....” You bring in, something that is already in existence. The RCC brought these things in, for political reasons to unite the Paganism, some of the OT, and Christianity, as bribes, some as policy (if they received the bribes) and as law. Not only combining the Religions, but combining Government and Religion

David wrote
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This thread is amazing.......ly absurd. Sorry if that offends you.

It started with the claim that the RCC invented church buildings, tithes, clergy and other things which were then labeled sinful because of the RCC connection
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WHERE, did I ever say, that the RCC invented church buildings????

Ah and you gathered there because the Roman Catholics invented man made buildings?

Church buildings = sin, according to your statement here.
Do you David, see your strawmen conclusions? Some of these statements were made by Prax, and maybe others. I don't even want to remember who said what or hold any grudges. I do appreciate those that understood what I was talking about.
Seems some don't want to see the condition of the church. That way they won't have to change anything.
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