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Originally Posted by Timmy
I am much more trusting of historical records when they deal with ordinary events -- elections, bank robberies, marriages, deaths, treaties, etc. -- than supernatural.
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This is what I always find funny on how this culture is turning. There was a time they would believe everything in their religion through blind faith. Now, teachers, doctors, and talking heads on the news are the new priesthood. The devout atheist who bangs the drum being the town crier of intellectual freedom, bow before the holy halls of science, history, modern medicine, and the priesthood of the mainstream media. Funny how most atheists were once preaching some religious dogma go to preaching some statist doctrine.
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Originally Posted by Timmy
If you believe reports of God speaking, which reports do you believe? You can't know. You cannot. You do think you know, and you have made guesses, but that's the best you can do: guess. You have reasons for choosing the Bible over, say, the Quran. Muslims have their reasons, too.
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Timmy how much do you know about Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, or even the history of Christianity? How much study have you applied to the teachings of these other religions? When Richard Alpert a.k.a Ram Dass, met Neem Karoli Baba, Alpert was an unbelieving scientist, but after that one meeting he ended up abandoning his life in America to be "literally" at the feet of that guru. Richard Alpert went to India and found religious devotees who were in a state of worship which he only found on LSD. A family from England traveled all the way from Waco Texas to be part of a church called the Branch Davidians. Were they on the right path? I don't believe so, because we shouldn't just rely on personal experience, but on much more. In the Rig Veda, the stories of the many different avatars of Vishnu teach ethics very different from the Bible. They teach that man must be bond to his fate, no matter what, if he was the son of a king, he must become a king, if he was born the son of a priest then he must become a priest. If a man is born the son of an untouchable he must stay an untouchable. The teachings of Christ and the Bible overcome all that, but also teaches that whatever state you are in be content. In everything give thanks, not just trying to ascend suffering through harsh punishments to the body.
With all that said, Biblical spiritual truth still cannot penetrate the mind of the insincere, because they just don't care. Through intellectualism and philosophy they search for a god to suit their own needs, but became disappointed. Jesus said the way is narrow and the door has a very small opening, few were the number who enter in. If you don't care, it just isn't for you. The pearl of great price had a cost, but man has a problem where he wants to remain an immature child, and therefore he forfeits the prize of spiritual maturity. If we go to any sacred book of any religion with the mind to disprove it, then we aren't reading it, nor can we understand what the writer is trying to say to his audience. The Quran is contradicted by the Hadiths, but still the Quran teaches that Christians believe in a Trinity. The Vedic texts teach that who you were in a past life must effect who you are in this life, you are bond, and cannot escape the crimes of all your past lives. In this life you must try to atone. My father and grandfather were atheists, and I found no solace in their teachings of "nothing out there but us."
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