Islam: A Religion of Lies...

[Walks_in_islam]

Maybe it’s simply reincarnation?

Surah 30:19 He brings out the living from the dead…

You are quite the student of the Quran.

Actually Surah 30 says more than that:

30:2 The Roman Empire has been defeated-

30:19 It is He Who brings out the living from the dead, and brings out the dead from the living, and Who gives life to the earth after it is dead: and thus shall ye be brought out (from the dead).

Hmmmmmmmm………..What's THAT supposed to mean?

I think you just hit another foul dude


Using your form of exegesis, as demonstrated above, I can understand your confusion. Muhammad could not keep his story straight. Except where he plagiarized the Bible.

Of course you can’t trust the quran for its reliability. After all it states that the sunset was found and that the sun was “setting” in hot water! ROTFL!!!

Surah 18:86 Until, when he reached the setting place of the sun, he found it setting in a spring of black muddy (or hot) water. And he found near it a people...Y

You seriously do not recognize an allegorical reference to "the Great One", who “walled up the people of Gog and Magog”? Call your father immediately. Apologize for taking his money and wasting it on bible school. Sell all you have, and pay him back. Then do something else. I mean seriously. Anything.

LOL! I already said Moses allowed this. I also said Moses allowed divorce as well. That does not mean God endorsed it.

Your bible actually says Jesus did endorse divorce. Are you now claiming that all of this law that Moses said came from God actually did not? The bible says it did. That would invalidate a lot of your bible. Even I wouldn’t dare say that. You HAVE to attribute large portions of your bible to Moses because if you don’t, then you HAVE to admit that your position here has been wrong. Would it not be better to admit error and return to what the bible says rather than declare that what Moses said came from God did not?

Did you know Moses murdered a man? That does not mean God endorsed the murder either. Of course you probably know this already but could care less. So if you could care less what else will you lie about?

Whatever Moses did, the law that I laid out for you still came from God. So many of the Prophets sinned, however when they declared a message from God it was a true message. You are wrong, so wrong, in trying to invalidate the message because of the man because the message does not fit your beliefs.

As mentioned many times Jesus pointed to the created order of one man and one woman in a monogamous relationship. Muhammad even plagiarized this portion of scripture. LOL!

Except for that troublesome water part, accurate but missing from any and all scripture. I believe in your shoes I wouldn’t actually have shared any of that.

LOL! It has been shown so often that the God ordained marriage is between one man and one woman that a person must wonder if you can comprehend anything that’s written. Apparently, it’s not just the Bible you cannot comprehend but the quran as well.

It was also shown that there are several other versions of God ordained marriage and I comprehended them better than you answered them.
There is much identified sin in the bible, not a single little passage where any of these were sin. Which is why you attribute it all to what “Moses allowed” while forgetting that many of these “arrangements” predate Moses. OOPS. Bible says “these words are from God”. Either you are wrong or the bible is wrong but you are not both right.

Again trying to understand the Bible with your Islamic paradigm. LOL! You used this before to try to prove prepubescent marriage and now you want to use it to demand it line up with islam, that women are forced into marriages. This logic is so ridiculous it has a name – an argument from silence. Note that it does not say she must be married to the man. See how simple and ridiculous your logic looks! LOL!

Let's read it together and see if a consensual marriage after 30 days sounds ridiculous in light of a captured woman whose husband has just been killed.

Note: Here it is supposed that this captive's husband, if she were before a married woman, was dead before, or rather was slain in this very battle, otherwise it would have been adultery in him that married her.
Antiquities of the Jews, Josephus, Book 4, Chapter 8, Section 23.

Yep, that's ridiculous. Next.

My background is the same as yours, except I’m from a little further south. I took a passage that ordered soldiers to take prepubescent girls for themselves then took the passage on what to do with captive girls and posted them exactly what they are. If a man can sell his daughter as a wife to another man in the bible do you really expect that you can make up “consent for a captive”? Do you even know what captive means?

I ignored your book? Know why? In the referenced passage there were no, zero, captives who had “husbands killed in battle”. If they “had husbands” they were killed too, and not in battle. So your book about “the happy end of widowed captives” was not even on the radar screen of relevent. I have no idea why you keep posting a happy little story about “captive widows” unless you are suggesting that the Israelites were “marrying” dead bodies. No wonder consent is not an issue! LOL

You are in error when you attempt to say there were more than one man and one woman created by God in the beginning. Apparently you don’t even know the quran! What else will you lie about?

If wrongly attributing quotes as per below is a lie I guess you just did it.

I know. You will lie by attributing a quote to me that was in reality from the Islamic apologetic site you appear to use. What else will you lie about?

You cannot deny that you posted it, which is why it was attributed to you. My error was in assuming that you posted it because you agreed with it. See how that works? Unlike the above where you claim that I in any way implied that there was more than one man and one woman created by God in the beginning.

I am positive that you can’t see the difference. Though a shining light in using your quick mind and rapid wit to expose the Quran you really don't come across as the brightest light on the street in matters of logical thought

LOL!!! So says the muslim apologist wannabe that struggles with reading comprehension. I will not “adjust” the truth or invent it as is the case with islam. Just as you have tried to invent more than one man and one woman in the Biblical creation narrative that Muhammad plagiarized. Oh well. No worries. Critics have come and critics have gone but the bible is still the standing. LOL!

I described many different types of marital arrangements in the Bible however none of them referenced creation. What else will you lie about?

Like I said, Moses allowed polygamy and even divorce. Moses, not God. That’s the problem with critics. They have no understanding of Hermeneutics or exegesis. They think they find a contradiction and they can’t get past it. You’re not the first critic and won’t be the last. Yet the Bible still says what it says.

Deuteronomy says “from God”. Polygamy predated Moses and you sure won’t touch that. LOL you skip Abraham, focus on Isaac, then skip Jacob, the father of the tribes. The Law passed down from God through Moses has rules about polygamy, but even though it says in the book “from God” in order to make it fit your case you replace that with “from Moses”? That's really sad dude.

It’s clear that you refuse to acknowledge truth in any form. You will argue against one man and one woman in the created order even when your quran affirms the same thing. I suppose you can argue you were just “inventing” information to support your religion. Where I was raised that was called lying. There is no intellectual integrity and only a desire to justify your religion by sacrificing truth on the altar of justification. Have at it. It’s your right.

Truth is in the words and the words were cut and pasted from your book. You call this lying. Is your book a lie then? There are many, many specific examples of marriages and laws about marriage and descriptions of marriage and it was all neatly spelled out for you. If those words, cut and pasted from the bible are a lie or “invented” then I guess we can conclude something from that can’t we. Except they are not. They are there, they were not changed, they were directly copied, and you declare this “inventing a lie”.

This "invented lie" copied and pasted from multiply biblical passages directly contradicts your message here. THAT makes you a poser, a pretender, and there are passages on that too. Should I get them? Innocently wondering.

It’s pointless to answer a fool according to his folly… (Proverbs 26:4)

You can change. The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom. Start with trying not to declare His books a lie?