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Old 01-19-2015, 11:28 PM
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Re: Why I am Now Convinced of a Pre-Trib Rapture

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Simple.... to show John the bride, he had to first describe the brides' hangout. Then the bride was shown.


He did not say the city was the brid'es hangout. he said it was the bride. Show me the term HANGOUT in that chapter. You want to be literal. Let's be literal. Show me where John was told the bride was INSIDE or GOING OT BE INSIDE the city.

Whatever happened to your King James onlyism? The KJV says the BRIDE IS THE CITY. Not IN the city.

Want to know why?

Mat 5:14 KJV Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.


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Just be patient next time you read it bro. You will see the bride eventually. Chill and read. Dont jump to conclusions and read the whole chapter.
You are reading it wrong. Stop twisting it and let it say what it says. He said the CITY IS THE BRIDE.

He said he would show John the BRIDE, and JOHN SAW THE CITY. He was not told it was the abode of the bride.

Now answer all my questions.

You never answer them.

Why do we have to be raptured to see a city that is now invisible? How is the rapture going to change our sight so that invisible physical things today are visible then? And you say the rapture will take us to heaven, not leave us in the earth.

So, if we already came to the invisible city and we're here on earth with it, but it's invisible, how are we going to "leave" the earth to be able to see what is "down here on earth" where we already are, and yet is going to come down to earth out of heaven later? We have to LEAVE something that is invisibly all around us NOW before we can SEE IT?

Is it going to race us to heaven when the rapture takes place and suddenly become visible. That'll be some fast hopping city, if we're in it now and it's invisible on earth and we are raptured in a twinkling of an eye but yet it beats us to heaven. Not only that, it beats us to heaven and then turns around and comes back out of and then turns right around to come back down to earth , and all that before we even get to heaven in the rapture!!!! Wow, that is one moving city!

And how is the rapture going to make us see something that is already physical if we cannot see it now? How can something be physical and invisible at the same time?

You cannot answer any of these these questions. But will revert to lies about us again concerning Rev 21.

Then you said more nonsense:

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We, the church are surrounded by the invisible realities!!!
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...1&postcount=47

How can something PHYSICAL be an invisible reality now? If it's PHYSICAL WE CAN SEE IT, and it cannot invisible. So, explain to us how we wil see something that is physical but currently invisible and yet we're surrounded by it right now.

And again, how can we LEAVE THE EARTH in the rapture to see something that we're al;ready surrounded with now?

And how can we be surrounded with it now if it has not even come out of the heaven yet?

You cannot answer any of these questions because you know they're absolutely ridiculous and nonsensical.

You believe we're surrounded by a physical city but it's invisible. Yet you believe we will leave the earth , which means we have to leave the invisible city that is surrounding us right now, so we can see the invisible city later! But we leave it to see it? And you believe we're in the city that is surrounding us now, that is physical and invisible, and yet it is also going to come out of heaven to the earth, but yet it's supposed to be already on earth surrounding us now.

That is most nonsensical stuff I ever heard. And you try to make us look silly? lol
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