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View Poll Results: Does the golden rule save without Christ's cross?
Yes, I am saved without the cross, by doing good to others as I would have good done to me. 0 0%
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Old 09-05-2016, 11:10 AM
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All will sadly be LOST if they do not have the FAITH in their hearts that ONLY GOD CAN SEE that stands on nothing but the shed blood of Jesus on the cross for remission of their sins.



The irony of it all is astounding!!

When Jesus spoke of the "Lord Lord" criers, he referred to PEOPLE WHO KNEW HIM AS LORD, but WHOM HE NEVER KNEW HIMSELF AS THE SAVED.

Get the picture. Knowing the Lord's identity, but the Lord not know ONE'S IDENTITY.

This is a picture that leads to Christ's words explaining that those who HEAR HIS WORDS AND DO NOT DO THEM are like people building HOUSES ON SAND. Those who HEAR HIM and DO HIS WORDS are building on ROCK.

All of this scenario is linked to Matt 16 where Jesus spoke of the CHURCH ON THE ROCK. Get It? BUILDING ON THE ROCK?

In that chapter, Peter learned the identity of the Lord from the revelation of the Father. After Jesus indicated to him that the Father indeed blessed him to show Peter Christ's identity, and it did not come from flesh and blood, Jesus then proceeded to add HIS WORDS after the FATHER'S. And it is HIS WORDS that He said people must listen to in order to build HOUSES ON THE ROCK.

These are the WORDS ABOUT THE CROSS. FROM THAT TIME FORWARD, once the Father revealed Christ's identity to Peter, JESUS SPOKE OF THE CROSS.

Get it. The Father's words were about Christ's identity. THE LORD'S WORDS WERE ABOUT THE CROSS. Notice the contrast between what the FATHER SAID and what CHRIST SAYS.

Matthew 16:16-18 KJV And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. (17) And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. (18) And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

And after JESUS SPOKE OF building on the rock, connecting us with the His words in Mat 7 about the "Lord Lord" criers and the HOUSE ON THE ROCK built by the wise who HEAR CHRIST'S WORDS AND DO THEM, we read HE SAID THIS.
Matthew 16:21 KJV From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.
And PETER, JUST LIKE SOME here today ON THIS FORUM in 2016, REJECTED THE MESSAGE CROSS.
Matthew 16:22-23 KJV Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee. (23) But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
Jesus formerly IDENTIFIED PETER once Peter indicated HE HEARD THE FATHER'S WORDS. but when the SON started speaking of the CROSS, suddenly JESUS' perception of Peter's IDENTITY CHANGED! Jesus identified Peter as SATAN this time. Just like those who reject the CROSS, satan is involved.

So we see an instance of the FIRST REVELATION we get is the identity of THE SON from the FATHER. And the SECOND REVELATION we get is THE CROSS.

Peter was like the LORD LORD criers in Matt 7. THEY KNEW JESUS' IDENTITY, for they called HIM "LORD." But the reason Jesus continued in Matt 7 to say those who use HIS NAME for miracles, and know HIS IDENTITY as Lord, ARE THOSE WHOM HE DOES NOT KNOW BECAUSE THEY DO NOT HEAR HIS WORDS AND DO THEM. What were his words? What did He say he had to SPEAK after the FATHER SPOKE about his identity? THE CROSS.
THE CROSS. THE CROSS. THE CROSS.

So the whole picture is the LORD LORD criers are those who love the identity of Jesus, which is how they can come to call him LORD! But they DO NOT HEAR HIS OWN WORDS AND DO WHAT HE SAID....

HIS WORDS are about HIS CROSS and their need to take THEIR CROSSES as well.

And yet this entire point of the LORD LORD criers and hearing Christ's words about the cross and doing them, or else HE DOES NO KNOW US, is TWISTED to the polar opposite by our friend who proposes a CROSSLESS gospel and would never tell an islamic about the cross, when Paul said he determined to know nothing among his listeners than CHRIST AND HIM CRUCIFIED.

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