Does the golden rule save without the cross?

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Originally Posted by shazeep

ok well i'm not sure how you get to "Love is for the confused" etc from there,

See, now this is an example of your lies. We do not believe "love is for the confused." Now you have to repent over that as well.

and you guys seem intent upon reassuring yourselves that everyone else is lost rather than any self examination, which i get is not the most comfortable thing in the world, so i'll just leave you to contemplate how 'mike drop' and overweening pride go together. Maybe when you lose 10 or 20 more million you'll be willing to have a conversation.

Why you think head counts are a concern in contrast to people hearing truth, we'll never know.

However, it's disingenuous of you, adding to the list of racked up lies, saying we seek to assure ourselves everyone else is lost. We seek to show the world why people are lost, as the bible explains, how the bible explains they can be saved. We were lost, too, but the message we heard from the bible is what we seek to share with others. You have a weird way of twisting that into seeking to assure ourselves we are saved apart from everyone else. But I guess that's what snakes do, anyway.

Think of it this way. You have a way to determine if you are saved or not. Using your method on the forum, you believe everyone else is lost who disagrees with you, or else you would not believe it is what's right for you to be saved.

So you lied about pride, you lied about love being for the confused, and you lied about us thinking people have to agree with our personal view rather than the truth of us believing people have to believe the bible.

You asked for the list of lifes. You gave three of them right here.

Easier to continue lying than to actually deal with your alleged accusations and our responses to them, though I see.

And THAT is the real pride here. Not willing to admit you lied.

We feel no pride in thinking we're saved and those who disbelieve the bible are lost. We feel sad and hurt, and wish for them to be saved.

Anyway, I noticed you wanted to know what it means to accept the cross, and I explained it....shortly after you asked. SO, WHERE IS YOUR RESPONSE to that direct post, with detailed reasons for it?