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View Poll Results: Does the golden rule save without Christ's cross?
Yes, I am saved without the cross, by doing good to others as I would have good done to me. 0 0%
No, I am not saved without the cross, by doing good to others as I would have good done to me. 17 100.00%
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Old 09-13-2016, 07:47 AM
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Re: Does the golden rule save without the cross?

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You are just trolling again. I think there's a chance you can talk, and then you pull these stunts.

I'm done for good now.

Let me leave you with this footstomping bug killing note, to show your thoughts up for the unbelieving nonsense they really are.

John 17:20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;


Jesus prayed for everyone to believe on Him THROUGH THE APOSTLES' WORD. He would not have said that if looking solely at what He said was sufficient.

You obviously have something against the cross (you won't even share it with muslims), and those who preach it, THAT much that Paul's emphasis on it would offend you to this extent.

>>Mic drop<<
yes, i do have something against what you think is the Cross, that being that strong men have taken hold of it, and seek to define it for their own ends, as we were warned. While i'm not prepared to go quite as far as Antipas in discounting Scripture, i don't believe Christ was at all vague or mistaken--i think this is just more stumbling at the Cross, personally--and after all, Paul was saved just fine without a New Testament, and apparently saw fit to purposely avoid meeting up with the Apostles to compare notes.

Strictly as an aside, i doubt you would give the same weight to, say, the Gospel of Judas, would you? Can you explain why Christ would pick Judas as an Apostle? Maybe since God is unable to impart the Gospel to us without help, maybe He just made a mistake picking Apostles, too? My guess is that Judas served a purpose, and Paul also serves a purpose--that i wonder if Antipas might agree with--that being to provide a snare? Which i'm sure you will disagree with, but this is not my first conversation with someone who worships Paul--so to speak--and rejects Christ, whenever He is quoted.

And by "share" you might come to see that you really mean "preach, from on high," and not really share, as examining how you would react to...well, me, telling you that you are lost, and then sharing how you might come to the Cross with genuine understanding would make you feel. I share the Cross with Muslims every day, or at least every time i interact with one, and i gotta tell you it is in a language that virtually everyone understands and responds to, usually for the good; most everyone agrees with "Love your neighbor," and the only place i find any laws against that are in the US, sad to say.

And i'm pretty sure this is the result of UD, and They Are All Lost, and Mike Drops--i mean, again with that? The reason i even responded to They Are All Lost was to suggest some overweening pride; are you sure you want to finish with Mike Drop? ok

i notice you're at 15 to 0 on your poll, wow, that's better than even despots get in elections! i mean please, man, read the signs, ok?

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