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Old 08-02-2017, 02:06 PM
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Re: Submission? Or Power and Control?

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On View Post
I have been taught what ILG posts below. I have never read anyone specifically use scripture to back up or refute this claim on FCF, NFCF nor AFF.

On a bit of a side note: So, yesterday, and again today, I was viewing Ben Shapiro debate Cenk Uygur (Bernie Sanders supporter) on a new platform called Politicon in Los Angeles. At the end of the debate Twitter took a poll and Shapiro won by 95%.

I think that we, as Conservatives, need to adopt Ben's platform - "Facts don't care about your feelings."

One of the liberals (college student, hence the wording) listening to the event stated, "Dude, Ben Shapiro is actually pretty smart. I love how everything is centered in logic. I disagree with some of the things he says, but I find myself agreeing with him on other stuff."

So, I would like to emulate Brother Blume who comes to mind. He is the foremost poster who puts out scripture and facts without insult or injury, and I like that.

Someone needs to line out the scripture text, if it is there, on this one particular part - Is the "glory" of the angel's wings covering the Ark of the Covenant a type and shadow of the woman's long hair being her covering in the NT? I suppose some will say, "No, it is a headcovering". Regardless, is it a type and shadow, because I have heard, for myself, Anthony Mangun say that he believes that to be true?

My take on I Corinthians 11 is that verse 10, "For this cause..." points back to the order of creation and has nothing to do with the hair on our head. I believe that Daniel Segraves holds that view as well. We get to verses 14 and 15, which then gets into gender distinction on length.

BDB lines out which actual Hebrew word identifies with any given OT reference. I don't know a source that does that for the Greek in the NT. Thayers lays out 4 definitions and so I don't know which one is applicable to the passage for "power" in I Cor. 11:10
PO - as before stated, ILG does not want an honest debate.
Notice that she did not dispute my statement or ndavids that she is vehemently anti-UPC.
So, I see no point in engaging with her.
Now, let me say that the entire uncut hair equals special favor with God thing is not my viewpoint.
I do believe that there is power in submission and obedience, even for men.
But, ILG's entire focus is to spread doubt and disbelief in ANY doctrine espoused by the UPC.
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