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Originally Posted by n david
If I understand Macarthur right, he claims that the act of Christ dying is what saves, not the actual blood of Christ.
"You have to stop short of saying that we are saved by the blood of Jesus, in the sense that there is some efficacy in the fluid that poured out of His body."
Blood isn't literal, just a symbol...
Jesus didn't die from bleeding, He died from asphyxiation...
Am I hearing this right?
I can't agree.
Now, I don't believe there are vials of blood in heaven being poured out constantly on the Mercy Seat. I do believe it was the literal blood of Jesus, poured out at Calvary, and sprinkled on the Mercy Seat once and for all ( Heb 9&12) which saves us.
It wasn't the simple act of killing a lamb which saved the Israelites during the Passover. It was the blood. God said "when I see the blood, I will pass over you." He didn't say "when I see you killed a lamb." It was the literal fluid they applied to the doorposts.
And it's the literal blood of Christ which saves us.
"without the shedding of blood is no remission."
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EDITED
Yes, without the shedding of blood there is no remission for sins but it isn't the efficacy of all that transpired to purchase our salvation is not in the literal blood but in the fact that He did what He did.
Yes His Blood was spilled.
MacArthur's point is that it isn't the literal blood that came out of the human body of Jesus Christ that day over 2,000 years ago that has been applied to our lives the days we were saved.
Everything about our salvation is faith-based and spiritual. When we observe communion, the wine doesn't literally become the literal blood that flowed from the veins of the man Jesus Christ. If you follow the this line of thinking (that has it's roots in Catholicism) then you will come to various, erroneous conclusions about the use of the literal blood of the man Jesus Christ.
At least, this is what I understand MacArthur to be saying and with this, he and I are on the same page.
I am open to correction in anything I have stated here...