Apostolic Friends Forum
Tab Menu 1
Go Back   Apostolic Friends Forum > The Fellowship Hall > Fellowship Hall
Facebook

Notices

Fellowship Hall The place to go for Fellowship & Fun!


 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Prev Previous Post   Next Post Next
  #11  
Old 08-23-2007, 04:52 PM
stmatthew's Avatar
stmatthew stmatthew is offline
Smiles everyone...Smiles!!


 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Sparta, TN
Posts: 2,399
Quote:
Originally Posted by stmatthew View Post
Prax,

From my POV, "Love Your Enemies" supersedes any attempt to take the life of another person for their acts against yourself or your family. If they are enemies of my wife, they are my enemies, and I am commanded to love them. One cannot fufill the command to love their enemies while taking their life at the same time.

But just so you have the balance, One full of love can love their enemy and at the same time grab hold of him and keep him from hurting the wife, the attacker, or himself, and have no anger towards the attacker that would cause him to do bodily harm to him.
Quote:
Originally Posted by LadyRev View Post
I respectfully disagree with your assessment of one's ability to not be angry and love their enemy while grabbing an attacker to keep him from hurting their wife.

You requested scripture that shows where the use of deadly force is OK.

Now I'm asking you to provide scripture that shows where its OK to use ANY kind of force, including grabbing, against one's enemies.

Grabbing an attacker would definitely NOT be gentle, rather, it would be forceful.

Where is your scriptural justification for this? Did Jesus do this?

Turn around is fair play.
Sis,

I have bowed out of this, as I do not see anything being accomplished out of it. But I will answer you because you have asked.

I gave scripture that from my viewpoint would not allow someone to use deadly force on an enemy.

Mat 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

While I know it is possible to stop someone from doing violence to another through means other than deadly force, because I had a job that required me to do such, I do not see where one can fulfill this scripture and use deadly force on someone at the same time.

For my belief I have now been labeled as "too spiritual" and "worse than an infidel". Since I do not particularly like to be victimized, I am doing the non-violent thing , and simply not posting here further. You folks that can figure out how to blow some robbers brains out and love him at the same time can have at it. I will do my best to live my convictions, and should I fail in the time of testing, I have an advocate with the Father.
Reply With Quote
 

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

 
User Infomation
Your Avatar

Latest Threads
- by Salome
- by Salome

Help Support AFF!

Advertisement




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:37 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.