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Originally Posted by tv1a
I'm all for Biblical boundaries. The idea that the corporate apostolic identity is wrapped around unbiblical standards should be cause for alarm.
If one wants to talk about circular argument, why not discuss how internet is okay, yet television is the tool of Satan. Legalism if full of circular logic. I give too much credit to legalism by using the word logic in the same sentence.
I have no problem with conservatism because I understand conservatism. I get along great with conservatives, liberals and moderates, oh my. (tribute to wizard of oz). Legalism however is destructive and has no place in the Body of Christ. Legalism is a cancer that obviously when left unchecked ends up as bad as witchcraft ( Galatians 3:1). The body of Christ should treat legalism the same way it treats a group of wiccans.
Again I invite you to do some research. My core beleifs are out there. I'll make the same challenge to you as I did to Phil Jones and others, find one flaw in those principles. So far just like the self righteouss individuals who wanted to stone the woman caught in adultery, every one of them had to drops their rocks and go back into their little caves. |
Phenomenal Post! Right on target.
And for the record, let me state this upfront: I neither LOVE nor HATE UPC. I've been in it 10 years, and love some things about it, and hate other things. I have no generational loyalty or ANY loyalty for that matter to the "organization"... I am quite indifferent to it, actually. But I do love the APOSTOLIC message and Jesus Christ. And I do love my pastor, who is NOT a clothesline preacher.
I have been to several women's conferences, some of which were very POWERFUL. However, I have to admit, I walked out on Ruth Reider's Holiness Session at one conference, it was so sickening. (And yes, there always was at least one session at each conference telling us womenfolk how to dress if we are to be approved by "The Church" (UPC in their book) and to be approved by the other saints.) And yes, they covered the uncut hair doctrine and the no-pants-on-women thing. And yes, you are not fully approved nor accepted if you don't agree with their standards.
NOW... several posts back (I can't remember the poster),
someone stated they were tired of being constantly criticized because they still ADHERED to the standards. Well I have to say, in my 10 years of UPC,
I have been CONSTANTLY looked down on by many in the UPC because I did not "fall in" and obey "The Standards" ... so all I can say is, I KNOW HOW YOU FEEL, Buddy. Not so fun when the shoe is on the other foot, is it?
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