There are bad countries in which to live and there are good countries in which to live. IMO, it's not the good countries responsibility to save those who reside in bad countries. That's life. It's always been that way.
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What if your name was Jose and you lived in a country where you had virtually no education and most of the people you knew who were making a decent living were dealing drugs and pimping women. You're married and you've lost work and are about to deplete what little savings you have left. You can't find a good paying job anywhere at home that will help you make ends meet. What jobs you can do are slave labor that have unreasonable hours and only pay a pittance. Your wife is scared and your kids are scared. You borrowed money to keep your dingy apartment and to buy groceries. Now the loan shark is threatening your family.
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This scenario happens all the time to Americans. But certainly if we hear about someone resorting to criminal activity to keep the bills paid we wouldn't give our endorsement nor condone such an excuse, surely.
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Personally, I'd grant them citizenship and then fine them between $200 to $500, put a 1st Degree Misdemeanor on their record, and give them six months probation. Violation of probation in this circumstance would result in a 3rd Degree Felony and one year in prison.
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is appalling. We have enough illegals in our jails and prisons as it is. Lawmakers are setting free those who don't pose a threat to society to allow room for others who have committed lesser crimes, if that even makes sense. And just imagine the increase in the taxpayer burden! I have to pay for an illegal who violated the probation he shouldn't have had in the first place to live in a nice, heated/air conditioned room, three squares a day, premium health care for every sniffle and sneeze, and even a TV to watch, cable included. No bills to pay, no worries....just living it up because, hey, it's certainly better than what he left in the first place, isn't it? Heck, with such provisions, they'd all come illegally!! I'd do it too!
And to Aurelie, sorry, but I know too many foreigners who are legal citizens in this country. And your stating that you have to marry someone is a misnomer, since that is not the case according to immigration law. Just because you marry an American doesn't automatically make you one, and you can and will be deported anyway if you don't apply for citizenship.
I'm all for foreigners coming here to make a better life for themselves, but they have to do it legally, not continue being a burden on those who are citizens.
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