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Old 03-19-2010, 02:13 PM
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Re: Noah and the Ark

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I'm very aware of the wonder of nature. I'm a fisherman and birdwatcher when it comes to hobbies. My point is that your position lends itself to the notion that man originated as a primate, not from a single man named Adam who was created in God's image.

If evolution is true... God is unnecessary.
No. You're doing the binary thinking error again.

"If this... then it's ALWAYS going to be that!" - - - - NO! Not "always."

How about, because evolution is true God IS necessary?

And, it has been shown time and time again that we did all descend from a single breeding pair of human beings - not once, but at least twice! (Consider the "Adam & Eve" pair and the "Mr. & Mrs. Noah" pair).

Just by coincidence, I suppose?
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I was just illustrating that there have been discoveries thrown out of the scientific community because they didn't match the accepted evolutionary model. There have been archeologists and anthropologists who have lost their careers because they stood by these discoveries. For example the woman who was escavating an ancient city in Central America. They found tools, arrow heads, pottery, etc. Much of it dated nearly 200,000 years old using radio carbon dating. They also used an isotope method I can't remember. The date for the city was so far off the charts the scientific community laughed her out of fellowship and closed the book from ever examining data from the site again unless it fit a more "reasonable" date range.

It's fascinating stuff really. Things like large metallic spheres, obviously human made, found in precambrian rock. The scientific community doesn't want to look into them... and if someone does they are labled a quack or a cook.
Okay, so you ARE going to quote Cremo and Thompson? (Am I psychic or what?)

... And the Weekly World News too,** from the "large metallic spheres" reference. This is all very old material in the sense that it's been debunked time and time again.

** ("Megan Fox Is A Man" - ???!!!) Now that's NEWS! - see the link above at the Weekly World News.

First of all, who exactly is that female archeologist you mention? I remember a similar scene involving artifacts Cremo was touting from Brazil. The site was at the base of a cliff and the material had all been washed out and tumbled in running water long after being originally deposited. This automatically excluded the finds from being candidates for radio-carbon dating. The site was thoroughly "contaminated" by debris from other sources and mixed.

The human skeletal remains in Brazil, however dated from just thousands of years and were apparently related to Australian aborigines, which was fascinating.

There's a rule about looking for "cavemen." If the cave shows signs of having been exposed to water then you move on to the next. Don't even bother digging because anything you find won't stand up to rigorous scrutiny when it comes to dating.

The metallic spheres come from a deposit in Africa. Volcanic heat raised the temperature high enough to melt metals. The metals within the loose clays ran together like hot lead on a copper plumbing pipe that you've put too much flux on (a common thing that I do). The lead beads up. Same thing with the metal "spheres." The vast majority are oblong and irregularly shaped, but Cremo would never show you those. He cherry picks the most spherical ones and says "Aha!"

Natives have been using them as talismans and carving the soft metal for who knows how long (but certainly NOT the 2.8 billion years that Cremo claims). The scientific community (especially the mining interests) have looked long and hard at these things.

Cremo was big news in the UPC back in the 1980's when he announced that he would reveal the "New Age Ruler of the Earth." Richard Heard and others were just about raptured with excitement over that.

Hail Lord Krishna, Chris?

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