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Originally Posted by pelathais
Your notion that Jesus Christ "endorsed" your opinions here is as exaggerated as your claim that:
"Did David really kill a lion and a bear with his bare hands?"
... be taken literally. C'mon Jason, you made that one up. Nowhere does the Bible even hint at such an event. David's statement ( 1 Samuel 17:34-36) make such a braggadocio claim of "with bare hands..." |
My fault, the Bible does NOT say he specifically killed a lion with his bare hands. Specifically it does say that David grabbed the lion, htus close combat, hence my "exaggeration" of with his bare hands. He likely used his rod, and probably a knife to actually kill the lion, unless he broke the lions neck. Either way, if he was close enough to physically grab the lion (as oppesed to shooting the lion with an arrow, or shotgun, as would be done today. No one would wrestle a lion and grab it in an attempt to kill it)--then I would consider it with his "bare hands".
I think you are being awfully picky about the specifics, and missing my whole point. Straining out a gnat to swallow a camel.
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Originally Posted by pelathais
You exaggerate what the Bible does say and then you demand that everyone accept your wild claims as if they were the actual words of divine writ.
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Pel, how is it I exaggerate the Bible, it says God created the earth in 6 days, it says there was a flood in which there were only 8 human survivors, it says that the Red Sea parted and the children of Isreal went through on dry land, etc, and I believe it for what it says. You go the route of the History channel, try to find an explanation, and if you can't find one, deduce that it surely couldn't have happened the way the Bible says, so it must mean something else.
Furthermore, I'm not making "demands" I simply cannot accept your opinions on such matters. I've made no demand that you must see it as I do or be lost. In fact I said exactly the opposite.
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Originally Posted by pelathais
And now you offer the wildly exaggerated claim that Jesus Christ "endorses" your methodology?
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No sir, not "my methodology", but Jesus and other New Testament writers witness to the inspiriation of the whole of the Old Testament, and several of the miraculous happenings of the Old Testament are referred to in the New.
Off the top of my head (not an exaustive list)
-Jesus spoke of Adam and Eve having been created at the beginning of creation (not millions of years later)
-Jesus testified to the truth of Naamans experience
-Jesus referred to the sudden destruction of Sodom and Ghomorrah
-Jesus referred the Noah's flood, as did Peter
-Jesus referred to the brazen seprant incident
-Paul referred to the parting of the Red Sea, and really the whole Exodus and wilderness experience throughout his writings, and admontions that those things are recorded for our behalf
I'm sure their are more I'm not thinking of right now.
But since the title of this thread is Noah's flood, it should be noted that Jesus and Peter referred to it, and neither seemed to take it as an allegory, but a literal event.
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