NOW, When Is Someone Saved?

[Jeffrey]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

Jeffery water and spirit baptism are acts of Grace. People are water baptized and God remits sin. Water baptism is a bible command like circumcision was for the old covenant. Spirit baptism is an act of Grace when God fills with his spirit. Where do you see commands of men adding to the work of grace by God?

Giving is an act of grace. Doing good works are acts of grace. Worship is an act of grace. Where does this end?

It's like God has just told the most incredible story ever. His own. He shows off. Like many, he delights in giving. Then, someone takes the mic and tries to make secondary remarks over top of his story. Qualifying it.

Telling someone they must speak in tongues to be saved is the greatest heresy, DM. No matter how much we consider Spirit baptism to be an act of Grace (and it is). But where did we first receive grace? Are we saved of ourselves, our the same as Abraham, by believing? What does it mean to believe? Can I believe without the Spirit?