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10-23-2010, 04:51 PM

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Re: NOW, When Is Someone Saved?

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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

Paul says in Romans 8, he that hath not the spirit of God is none of his. This is not man's commandment. It is a bible command. Or do you disagree with Paul also? Could Abraham be saved if he disobeyed circumcision?

This is true, however our 1-step brothers would deny that as person can be saved without the Spirit. They deny a person HAS to speak in tongues in order to have the Spirit.

Also. many teach a difference between the infilling with tongues and receiving the Spirit.

They see these as 2 distinct events and endowments. One is sanctification/salvation of the Spirit in our lives and the other is an empowerment after salvation

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