I believe He agrees with His Word. If God saw it any other way... who'd have a chance?
I find this interesting. The legalistic crowd who are so quick to dismiss justification by faith and the finished work of Christ being our propitiation, proclaiming that we have to do righteous works to be saved, ignore their own sin and imperfections, believing that somehow they're going to receive special treatment by God. I haven't met a perfect legalist yet. According to their own paradigm... they themselves aren't going to Heaven.
I believe He agrees with His Word. If God saw it any other way... who'd have a chance?
I find this interesting. The legalistic crowd who are so quick to dismiss justification by faith and the finished work of Christ being our propitiation, proclaiming that we have to do righteous works to be saved, ignore their own sin and imperfections, believing that somehow they're going to receive special treatment by God. I haven't met a perfect legalist yet. According to their own paradigm... they themselves aren't going to Heaven.
Under your paradigm aquila. Those that are called are chosen. I also love you just throw out a wide ranging use of "perfect" that is not what is argued. Typical! Aquila will you be judged in the end saved or given eternal life without works/faith? If you don't believe the living righteousness that is in us which is the living Spirit of Christ does not practically save us from ourselves by FAITH and we ae judged righteous by it. You teach a lawless God and gospel an a false doctrine of grace.
Hey Luke, are you sure you gonna make it to heaven?
Why or why not?
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...Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ...(Acts 20:21)
Hey Luke, are you sure you gonna make it to heaven?
Why or why not?
I have faith but no I don't know and neither does anyone else that is human. That is why it is called the judgment in which we are judged according to our works both good and bad. God is just and consistent. He will either say well done thou good and "faithful" servant or depart from me you worker of lawlessness I never knew you.
Eze 18:24 But when a righteous person turns away from his righteousness and does injustice and does the same abominations that the wicked person does, shall he live? None of the righteous deeds that he has done shall be remembered; for the treachery of which he is guilty and the sin he has committed, for them he shall die.
I have faith but no I don't know and neither does anyone else that is human. That is why it is called the judgment in which we are judged according to our works both good and bad. God is just and consistent. He will either say well done thou good and "faithful" servant or depart from me you worker of lawlessness I never knew you.
Eze 18:24 But when a righteous person turns away from his righteousness and does injustice and does the same abominations that the wicked person does, shall he live? None of the righteous deeds that he has done shall be remembered; for the treachery of which he is guilty and the sin he has committed, for them he shall die.
1 John 3:2
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
So considering 1 John 3:2, it says we are sons of God right now. In other words, we don't have to die to know that we are God's children. Do you think God would send his children who have born of Him to hell?
You also said "no human knows". How did Paul know that a crown was waiting for him if he couldn't even know whether he was perfect enough to make it to heaven?
2 Tim 4
7I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith:
8Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.
Enlighten moi!
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...Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ...(Acts 20:21)
1 John 3:2
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
So considering 1 John 3:2, it says we are sons of God right now. In other words, we don't have to die to know that we are God's children. Do you think God would send his children who have born of Him to hell?
You also said "no human knows". How did Paul know that a crown was waiting for him if he couldn't even know whether he was perfect enough to make it to heaven?
2 Tim 4
7I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith:
8Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.
Enlighten moi!
He didn't know. He was speaking in faith. He found out if he was right, after he died. (Or he will, come judgment day. Depending.) He may be saying "Lord, Lord, didn't I write most of the New Testament?"
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
He didn't know. He was speaking in faith. He found out if he was right, after he died. (Or he will, come judgment day. Depending.) He may be saying "Lord, Lord, didn't I write most of the New Testament?"
Timmayyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!
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...Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ...(Acts 20:21)
1 John 3:2
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
So considering 1 John 3:2, it says we are sons of God right now. In other words, we don't have to die to know that we are God's children. Do you think God would send his children who have born of Him to hell?
LOL nice context and understanding all te underlying principles.
We are children to WHOM we obey. If we go after flesh we are not children of God. Unless we repent we will die in our sins. I can consider myself a child of God IF I am doing his will and commandments just as Jesus said concerning us being his friends. IF we obey we are his friends.
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You also said "no human knows". How did Paul know that a crown was waiting for him if he couldn't even know whether he was perfect enough to make it to heaven?
LOL... He is viewing himself HAVING KEPT to receive. Thus he believes he will receive. He will be judged by God to have been faithful to the end or not. He has belief he will. As we all shoud have expectancy having been what WE PERCIEVE as being faithful. He still wil be judged.
1Jn 3:18 Little children, let us not love in word or talk but in deed and in truth. 1Jn 3:19By this we shall know that we are of the truth and reassure our heart before him; 1Jn 3:20 for whenever our heart condemns us, God is greater than our heart, and he knows everything. 1Jn 3:21 Beloved, if our heart does not condemn us, we have confidence before God; 1Jn 3:22 and whatever we ask we receive from him, because we keep his commandments and do what pleases him.
LOL nice context and understanding all te underlying principles.
We are children to WHOM we obey. If we go after flesh we are not children of God. Unless we repent we will die in our sins. I can consider myself a child of God IF I am doing his will and commandments just as Jesus said concerning us being his friends. IF we obey we are his friends.
The prodigal's father was still his father even though the prodigal left. Here's the truth... if you must do God's will and keep His commandments... you must keep them all. You can't pick and choose. It isn't a buffet bar. Every minor detail has to be kept. Why? Because God is HOLY. I think if we take the position that we have to obey the Law (God's commandments) to be saved...we minimize how terrible sin really is. I know legalists who believe in keeping God's commandments and assume that they can live sinless lives. When I bring up a sin in their life, the typical response is, "Well, I don't think that's a 'sin' and here's why...." Also, this idea can breed a mentality wherein a person "thinks" they are obeying all of God's commandments, when in truth they are only obeying the religious dictates of their denomination or organization. This leads to a religious pride and self righteousness. In Christ... we are complete, we are perfect, we are justified, we are sanctified, we are holy, we are a new creature. A "transfering" has taken place. Christ took the body of sin and all it's condemnation upon Himself, and freely imputes His righteousness and holiness to those who believe and turn to Him. Now, when Satan (the accuser) points at our sin and demands God's justice, God points to the cross. The cross satisfied all of the justice of God. Jesus was indeed our propitiation.
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