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Old 04-14-2011, 11:38 AM
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That is why it is called the judgment in which we are judged according to our works both good and bad.


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yeah truth hurts doesn't it.
Not in the context you presented. False doctrine hurts His cause.
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Not in the context you presented. False doctrine hurts His cause.
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Old 04-14-2011, 11:51 AM
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True Grace hurts the flesh, doesn't it? No glory for a two cents' worth of effort.
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Re: We have to Be perfect in order to make heaven

We have to be IN CHRIST in order to go to Heaven. We can LEAVE CHRIST by unbelief or sinful activity. But Paul desired to present every man PERFECT/COMPLETE in Christ.
Colossians 1:28 KJV Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:

Colossians 2:6-10 KJV As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him: (7) Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving. (8) Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. (9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. (10) And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:
People and false doctrines will STEAL US OUT from being IN CHRIST. We must remains staunch in his work on the cross and not think we can add to that in order to put us over the edge of being sure we are saved.

We can not present ourselves perfect in our goods works of obedience. Any good works we do cannot add to what Christ did to save us. We just need to maintain our placement in Christ by our good works. So they will not nor cannot judge us in regards to what takes us into heaven. The works we are judged by at the white throne only ascertain our rewards NOT OUR SALVATION.

Nothing but the blood is taking us into glory! NOTHING but the blood.
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True Grace hurts the flesh, doesn't it? No glory for a two cents' worth of effort.
not sure what you are talking about but false grace is found in reformed doctrine.
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not sure what you are talking about but false grace is found in reformed doctrine.
Greasy grace is the foundation of a salvation that can slip through your hands. Security in Christ is solid and predicated upon Christ and His propitiatory work on the cross alone. Jesus Christ being a sure foundation.
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