Galatians 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. 8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. 9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.
You don't know if you willunto the end and you stand before God as we will give a account.
Matthew 12:36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
Romans 14:10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. 11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God. 12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.
We will be found good or bad stewards at judgment...
Luke 16:1 And he said also unto his disciples, There was a certain rich man, which had a steward; and the same was accused unto him that he had wasted his goods. 2 And he called him, and said unto him, How is it that I hear this of thee? give an account of thy stewardship; for thou mayest be no longer steward.
1Co 4:2 Moreover, it is required of stewards that they be found trustworthy.
1Co 4:3 But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged by you or by any human court. In fact, I do not even judge myself.
1Co 4:4 For I am not aware of anything against myself, but I am not thereby acquitted. It is the Lord who judges me.
1Co 4:5 Therefore do not pronounce judgment before the time, before the Lord comes, who will bring to light the things now hidden in darkness and will disclose the purposes of the heart. Then each one will receive his commendation from God.
(Rom. 2:6-7) “God will give(which is a appointed time of bestowing) to each person according to what he has done. To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, He will give eternal life. But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger.”
(2 Cor. 5:10) “For we must all(Christians clearly included) appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.”
As soon as we look to our obedience as what pays our way into glory, we have been stolen from being in Christ, if we were ever in Him due to standing on nothing but His shed blood for our salvation. Good works must be maintained, but never considered the ticket to glory. HIS CROSS ALONE pays my way into Heaven. Good works only keep me from losing that.
Let none consider their good works and judgment for rewards as what brought them into heaven. God will surely keep us out if we look to those works. That is not to say good works have no part in our salvation at all. But the part they have is NOT what made the difference to take us into glory.
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"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
Ok, let me just say I don't know about y'all, but I am 100% sure I'm gonna be in heaven!!!
2 Cor 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
I have the righteousness of God.
I have the righteousness of God.
I have the righteousness of God.
Do you realize I have the righteousness of God?
No man is righteous enough for heaven, but wait, I have the righteousness of Him that rules heaven!!! Go figure!
Makes me wanna jump. Rom 8
33Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
34Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
In God's eyes, I am ABSOLUTELY SINLESS (only because of what Jesus did for me). Now, tell me how can God, who is holy and just send me to hell when I am ABSOLUTELY SINLESS? I am ABSOLUTELY SINLESS.
Do I still sin? Yes!, but the blood of Jesus cleanses me from my sins. Should I remain sin and claim grace, absolutely not.
Rom 6
1What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
2God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
I am dead to sin and alive to God!, wohoo!!!!
I have been born again!!! Born to die no more.. Glory!!!!!!!!!!!1
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...Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ...(Acts 20:21)
Ok, let me just say I don't know about y'all, but I am 100% sure I'm gonna be in heaven!!!
2 Cor 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
I have the righteousness of God.
I have the righteousness of God.
I have the righteousness of God.
Do you realize I have the righteousness of God?
No man is righteous enough for heaven, but wait, I have the righteousness of Him that rules heaven!!! Go figure!
Makes me wanna jump. Rom 8
33Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
34Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
In God's eyes, I am ABSOLUTELY SINLESS (only because of what Jesus did for me). Now, tell me how can God, who is holy and just send me to hell when I am ABSOLUTELY SINLESS? I am ABSOLUTELY SINLESS.
Do I still sin? Yes!, but the blood of Jesus cleanses me from my sins. Should I remain sin and claim grace, absolutely not.
Rom 6
1What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
2God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
I am dead to sin and alive to God!, wohoo!!!!
I have been born again!!! Born to die no more.. Glory!!!!!!!!!!!1
You got it! NOTHING BUT THE BLOOD! Flesh wants to glory in obedient works, as though AT LEAST TWO CENTS' worth of OUR works gets us into heaven, as though Jesus did not pay the whole shot but for two cents.
The Jews made the grave error of going about to establish their own righteousness, instead of accepting the righteousness from God. This idea of righteousness being justice so misses the mark and is bait for legalism. Righteousness is right standing with God. And THAT WAS A GIFT! How is justice a free gift?
__________________ ...MY THOUGHTS, ANYWAY.
"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
You got it! NOTHING BUT THE BLOOD! Flesh wants to glory in obedient works, as though AT LEAST TWO CENTS' worth of OUR works gets us into heaven, as though Jesus did not pay the whole shot but for two cents.
The Jews made the grave error of going about to establish their own righteousness, instead of accepting the righteousness from God. This idea of righteousness being justice so misses the mark and is bait for legalism. Righteousness is right standing with God. And THAT WAS A GIFT! How is justice a free gift?
LOL you cannot even see that his person is OSAS and teaches forensic justification by a imputed view of righteousness. GOD CANNOT SEE THEM SINNING! sheesh
LOL you cannot even see that his person is OSAS and teaches forensic justification by a imputed view of righteousness. GOD CANNOT SEE THEM SINNING! sheesh
Keep on twisting what we are saying. Disobedience and sin removes us from being in Christ. This nonsense about God not seeing us sin is crazy. As soon as we sin and fail to repent, we are no longer in Christ!
No such thing as OSAS. The two cents' guys who think their good deeds pay for heaven will say any dependence upon the blood alone for righteousness is osas, and yet we blow that distortion away and say we can lose our salvation by disobedience.
__________________ ...MY THOUGHTS, ANYWAY.
"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
Keep on twisting what we are saying. Disobedience and sin removes us from being in Christ. This nonsense about God not seeing us sin is crazy. As soon as we sin and fail to repent, we are no longer in Christ!
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Does that apply only when we intentionally sin and know we are sinning?
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
I doubt that concerning the post I was pointing to as that is not what "they" said. You IMO don't believe what they said r you ar confused.
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Disobedience and sin removes us from being in Christ. This nonsense about God not seeing us sin is crazy. As soon as we sin and fail to repent, we are no longer in Christ!
read much of what they said?
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No such thing as OSAS. The two cents' guys who think their good deeds pay for heaven will say any dependence upon the blood alone for righteousness is osas, and yet we blow that distortion away and say we can lose our salvation by disobedience.
oh of course... I believe my two cents paid my way.
Keep on twisting what we are saying. Disobedience and sin removes us from being in Christ. This nonsense about God not seeing us sin is crazy. As soon as we sin and fail to repent, we are no longer in Christ!
I've enjoyed your posts Bro. Blume, but I have a few questions.
How is the above not works based? Again, I think we're looking at symptoms of a greater problem and demanding that they be treated. If a person continues in sin, the issue isn't the sin...it's their having broken oneness with Christ. They are not taking control, breaking ranks with the indwelling Spirit, and living their own lives, Christ isn't being allowed to live through them. They can leave Christ, abandon the church, and later turn from doing the evil things they are doing. But unless they return to the vine, they are still severed branches. I believe that our "sins" were dealt with at the cross. ALL of them. Past, present, and future. So the "sinful behaviors" aren't the problem...it's their relationship. They need to reconnect with Christ, they need to come back to a place where they are in Christ. Therefore the sin they must repent of is...breaking ranks with Christ Jesus. Once they are back "in Christ" and connected to the Vine, their behavior will change as their mind is renewed by the life that flows through the Vine into them.
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No such thing as OSAS. The two cents' guys who think their good deeds pay for heaven will say any dependence upon the blood alone for righteousness is osas, and yet we blow that distortion away and say we can lose our salvation by disobedience.
The heat we see between the doctrines of Free Will and Perseverance of the Saints is essentially a theological antimony. Both are absolutely correct. The issue is point of reference. If we begin with man, there is Free Will. If we begin with God, people are what they will be. This has been ordained to be so by the very will of God without interferrence...thus predestined according to His will. That's why when asked, I typically say that I believe in Free Will...but God's a Calvinist. LOL
Ok, let me just say I don't know about y'all, but I am 100% sure I'm gonna be in heaven!!!
2 Cor 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
I have the righteousness of God.
I have the righteousness of God.
I have the righteousness of God.
Yes but you must endure to be considered "faithFUL" and considered righteous.
You have a righteous standing because you walk by faith to his leading which IS RIGHTEOUS.
The righteousness of God is the law upon the heart not a forensic imputation of position.
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Do you realize I have the righteousness of God?
uhhhhh
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No man is righteous enough for heaven, but wait, I have the righteousness of Him that rules heaven!!! Go figure!
yeah you do IF....!
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Makes me wanna jump. Rom 8
33Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
34Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
In God's eyes, I am ABSOLUTELY SINLESS (only because of what Jesus did for me).
Lutzer and Sproul would be so proud. Was the church of Ephesus sinless n his eyes in Revelation?
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Now, tell me how can God, who is holy and just send me to hell when I am ABSOLUTELY SINLESS? I am ABSOLUTELY SINLESS.
uhhh because you are what you are. Faithful and a friend or lawless.
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Do I still sin? Yes!, but the blood of Jesus cleanses me from my sins. Should I remain sin and claim grace, absolutely not.
The blood only cleanses if you walk as he walks which is a path of righteousness by the Spirit and do his commandments. 1 John 1:7
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Rom 6
1What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
2God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
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I am dead to sin and alive to God!, wohoo!!!!
Yes if you follow the Spirit but not if you follow the flesh.
sheesh
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